Re: question regarding Mongolian timezone /Hovd GMT+/
Dear IANA Colleagues, I hope this message finds you well. My name is Munkh-Erdene from Mobicom Corporation, a mobile phone operator in Mongolia. I have a question regarding the Mongolian timezone, specifically for the Hovd region. According to various online sources, Mongolia currently has two time zones: Hovd (UTC+7) and Ulaanbaatar (UTC+8). The Hovd timezone is observed in three provinces: Hovd, Bayan-Ulgii, and Uvs. However, when I checked the tzdata files (zone.tab and zone1970.tab), it lists five provinces under the Hovd timezone. My understanding is that it should be only the three provinces mentioned above. Could you please advise on the process for requesting a correction in tzdata? Are there any specific requirements we need to meet? Also, please let me know if my understanding of the timezone coverage is incorrect. Thank you for your time and support. MUNKH-ERDENE Erdenebat Manager Core Network Department /CND/ CN&BSD/TS [mobicomnewlogo] Peace Avenue 3/1, Post Office-46 Ulaanbaatar-14201, Mongolia. Mobile : (976) 94081000 Web : www.mobicom.mn<http://www.newcom.mn/> From: Munkh-Erdene Erdenebat Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2024 5:28 PM To: tz-owner@iana.org<mailto:tz-owner@iana.org> Subject: question regarding Mongolian timezone /Hovd GMT+/ Dear IANA Colleagues, How are you, doing well. I am Munkh-Erdene from Mobicom Corporation, which is Mongolian mobile phone operator. I've question regarding Mongolian timezone. We have some misunderstanding regarding Mongolian timezone, specially for Hovd region. As we checked from internet, it says there is 2 timezone in Mongolia now. Hovd+7 and Ulaanbaatar +8. Behind of Hovd region, there is 3 provinces which is Hovd, Bayan-Ulgii & Uvs. [cid:image004.png@01DC1810.84CC7F10][cid:image007.jpg@01DC1810.84CC7F10] World Time Zone Map (24timezones.com)<https://24timezones.com/timezone-map> Mongolia Time Zone - WhichTimezone<https://whichtimezone.com/asia/mongolia/> But when I checked from tzdata file. Zone.tab & zone1970.tab files. There is 5 aimags behind of Hovd region, it should be 3 provinces which is Hovd, Bayan-Ulgii & Uvs. We want to correct it on tzdata, how can we send request to you and is there any requirements from you? please correct me if I was checked wrongly. [cid:image008.jpg@01DC1810.84CC7F10] [cid:image009.jpg@01DC1810.84CC7F10] MUNKH-ERDENE Erdenebat Department Manager Network Operation & Maintenance Department /NOMD/ TOMD/TOMS [mobicomnewlogo] Peace Avenue 3/1, Post Office-46 Ulaanbaatar-14201, Mongolia. Mobile : (976) 94081000 Web : www.mobicom.mn<http://www.newcom.mn/> ???????? ?????? ????? ?????? ?? (????????????? ????) ?????? ?????? ?????????? ?????????, ?????? ???? ??? ????? ???????? ???????????? ?????. ?? ????? ??????? ??????????? ???????? ?? ??????? ?????????????, ????????? ???????? ?????? ?????? ??????????? ???????????? ???? ?????????? ? ??????? ????????????? ??? ?? ????????????? ??. ????? ?? ?? ????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ?????? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ????? ??????? ????????? ????? ????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ????????, ?????????? ????? ????? ????? ??????? ?????? ????????? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ??????? ???? ??. ???????? ?????? ???????? ??????????? ?????????? ?????? ????????? ?????????, ??????????, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????? ????????? ??????? ????? ?????? ????, ?? ?????? ????? ????? ??? ?????? ???????? ??. Disclaimer This email (including any attachments) is intended only to be read and used by the addressee. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information, which is not waived if it is mistakenly delivered to you. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete both messages from your system; any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful.
Hi, Is there any publicly available citations, either Govt notices or something that shows which timezone the civil authorities use? Thanks -- Sanjeev Gupta +65 98551208 http://www.linkedin.com/in/ghane On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 at 11:57, Munkh-Erdene Erdenebat via tz <tz@iana.org> wrote:
Dear IANA Colleagues,
I hope this message finds you well.
My name is Munkh-Erdene from Mobicom Corporation, a mobile phone operator in Mongolia.
I have a question regarding the Mongolian timezone, specifically for the Hovd region.
According to various online sources, Mongolia currently has two time zones: * Hovd (UTC+7)* and *Ulaanbaatar (UTC+8)*.
The Hovd timezone is observed in three provinces: Hovd, Bayan-Ulgii, and Uvs.
However, when I checked the tzdata files (zone.tab and zone1970.tab), it lists * five provinces* under the Hovd timezone. My understanding is that it should be only the three provinces mentioned above.
Could you please advise on the process for requesting a correction in tzdata? Are there any specific requirements we need to meet? Also, please let me know if my understanding of the timezone coverage is incorrect.
Thank you for your time and support.
*MUNKH-ERDENE Erdenebat*
Manager
Core Network Department */CND/*
*CN&BSD/TS*
[image: mobicomnewlogo]
Peace Avenue 3/1, Post Office-46
Ulaanbaatar-14201, Mongolia.
*Mobile : (976) 94081000*
Web : www.mobicom.mn <http://www.newcom.mn/>
*From:* Munkh-Erdene Erdenebat *Sent:* Wednesday, March 13, 2024 5:28 PM *To:* tz-owner@iana.org *Subject:* question regarding Mongolian timezone /Hovd GMT+/
Dear IANA Colleagues,
How are you, doing well.
I am Munkh-Erdene from Mobicom Corporation, which is Mongolian mobile phone operator.
I’ve question regarding Mongolian timezone.
We have some misunderstanding regarding Mongolian timezone, specially for Hovd region.
As we checked from internet, it says there is 2 timezone in Mongolia now. Hovd+7 and Ulaanbaatar +8.
Behind of Hovd region, there is 3 provinces which is Hovd, Bayan-Ulgii & Uvs.
World Time Zone Map (24timezones.com) <https://24timezones.com/timezone-map>
Mongolia Time Zone - WhichTimezone <https://whichtimezone.com/asia/mongolia/>
*But when I checked from tzdata file. *Zone.tab & zone1970.tab files.
There is 5 aimags behind of Hovd region, it should be 3 provinces which is Hovd, Bayan-Ulgii & Uvs.
We want to correct it on tzdata, how can we send request to you and is there any requirements from you?
please correct me if I was checked wrongly.
*MUNKH-ERDENE Erdenebat*
Department Manager
Network Operation & Maintenance Department */NOMD/*
*TOMD/TOMS*
[image: mobicomnewlogo]
Peace Avenue 3/1, Post Office-46
Ulaanbaatar-14201, Mongolia.
*Mobile : (976) 94081000*
Web : www.mobicom.mn <http://www.newcom.mn/>
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 at 23:57, Munkh-Erdene Erdenebat via tz <tz@iana.org> wrote:
The Hovd timezone is observed in three provinces: Hovd, Bayan-Ulgii, and Uvs.
However, when I checked the tzdata files (zone.tab and zone1970.tab), it lists *five provinces* under the Hovd timezone. My understanding is that it should be only the three provinces mentioned above.
It appears you may be looking at an older version of tzdata files. In the latest release, 2025b, the two Mongolia (MN) lines in zone1970.tab read as follows: MN +4755+10653 Asia/Ulaanbaatar most of Mongolia MN +4801+09139 Asia/Hovd Bayan-Ölgii, Hovd, Uvs As recently as July 2024, we made some changes to better reflect the information that had been made available to us about historical timekeeping in Mongolia: https://github.com/eggert/tz/commit/7eb5bf887927e35079e5cc12e2252819a7c47bb0 This change, first released in version 2024b on 4 September 2024, removed Govi-Altai and Zavkhan provinces from the comments field for Asia/Hovd, bringing the formerly listed five provinces down to three. If you have better data for the history of Mongolian timekeeping, backed by appropriate publicly-available news or government sources, we'd be very happy to hear about it as many of our existing sources are conflicting. -- Tim Parenti
Dear Tim. Wow, thanks for the update. I understand now - I had missed the recent changes. Sorry for the trouble, and thank you for the clear explanation. Let me ask the handset vendors to update their tzdata. MUNKH-ERDENE Erdenebat Manager Core Network Department /CND/ CN&BSD/TS [mobicomnewlogo] Peace Avenue 3/1, Post Office-46 Ulaanbaatar-14201, Mongolia. Mobile : (976) 94081000 Web : www.mobicom.mn<http://www.newcom.mn/> From: Tim Parenti [mailto:tim@timtimeonline.com] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2025 12:38 PM To: Munkh-Erdene Erdenebat <munkherdene.er@mobicom.mn> Cc: tz@iana.org; iana@iana.org; iana-questions@iana.org Subject: Re: [tz] Re: question regarding Mongolian timezone /Hovd GMT+/ CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Please be cautious when clicking on links or opening attachments. On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 at 23:57, Munkh-Erdene Erdenebat via tz <tz@iana.org<mailto:tz@iana.org>> wrote: The Hovd timezone is observed in three provinces: Hovd, Bayan-Ulgii, and Uvs. However, when I checked the tzdata files (zone.tab and zone1970.tab), it lists five provinces under the Hovd timezone. My understanding is that it should be only the three provinces mentioned above. It appears you may be looking at an older version of tzdata files. In the latest release, 2025b, the two Mongolia (MN) lines in zone1970.tab read as follows: MN +4755+10653 Asia/Ulaanbaatar most of Mongolia MN +4801+09139 Asia/Hovd Bayan-Ölgii, Hovd, Uvs As recently as July 2024, we made some changes to better reflect the information that had been made available to us about historical timekeeping in Mongolia: https://github.com/eggert/tz/commit/7eb5bf887927e35079e5cc12e2252819a7c47bb0<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d2dca-31350aeb-454455534531-c7af5dd7f1f79420&q=1&e=011c8529-9b91-4d46-97af-502a9ecd7c97&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Feggert%2Ftz%2Fcommit%2F7eb5bf887927e35079e5cc12e2252819a7c47bb0> This change, first released in version 2024b on 4 September 2024, removed Govi-Altai and Zavkhan provinces from the comments field for Asia/Hovd, bringing the formerly listed five provinces down to three. If you have better data for the history of Mongolian timekeeping, backed by appropriate publicly-available news or government sources, we'd be very happy to hear about it as many of our existing sources are conflicting. -- Tim Parenti ???????? ?????? ????? ?????? ?? (????????????? ????) ?????? ?????? ?????????? ?????????, ?????? ???? ??? ????? ???????? ???????????? ?????. ?? ????? ??????? ??????????? ???????? ?? ??????? ?????????????, ????????? ???????? ?????? ?????? ??????????? ???????????? ???? ?????????? ? ??????? ????????????? ??? ?? ????????????? ??. ????? ?? ?? ????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ?????? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ????? ??????? ????????? ????? ????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ????????, ?????????? ????? ????? ????? ??????? ?????? ????????? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ??????? ???? ??. ???????? ?????? ???????? ??????????? ?????????? ?????? ????????? ?????????, ??????????, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????? ????????? ??????? ????? ?????? ????, ?? ?????? ????? ????? ??? ?????? ???????? ??. Disclaimer This email (including any attachments) is intended only to be read and used by the addressee. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information, which is not waived if it is mistakenly delivered to you. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete both messages from your system; any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful.
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