Can anyone please advise on where I can find the Rule name history for each country/region? The data I'm interested in is as follows: - AQ, Oz: I don't know to which area/country this is referring to as it is not listed on tiscali - C-Eur, E-EurAsia - are these valid/active rule names in use? or used parallel? not sure if any of them is a historic name for Europe that's why I'm looking for archived rule names. I believe some of these were used up to some point in the past and then switched to a new name... And I also have some other countries like Pakistan, Palestine where I would like to check the DST history. ________________________________ NOTICE: Morgan Stanley is not acting as a municipal advisor and the opinions or views contained herein are not intended to be, and do not constitute, advice within the meaning of Section 975 of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy all electronic and paper copies and notify the sender immediately. Mistransmission is not intended to waive confidentiality or privilege. Morgan Stanley reserves the right, to the extent permitted under applicable law, to monitor electronic communications. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.morganstanley.com/disclaimers If you cannot access these links, please notify us by reply message and we will send the contents to you. By messaging with Morgan Stanley you consent to the foregoing.
I don't believe the rule names have any particular meaning. They are just used inside the zone files as a name for a specific collection of rules. They are not visible except in those source files. If you change them to rule1, rule2, and so on, the resulting time data for all the regions would not change at all. paul On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Osko, Galatea wrote: Can anyone please advise on where I can find the Rule name history for each country/region? The data I'm interested in is as follows: - AQ, Oz: I don't know to which area/country this is referring to as it is not listed on tiscali - C-Eur, E-EurAsia - are these valid/active rule names in use? or used parallel? not sure if any of them is a historic name for Europe that's why I'm looking for archived rule names. I believe some of these were used up to some point in the past and then switched to a new name... And I also have some other countries like Pakistan, Palestine where I would like to check the DST history. ________________________________ NOTICE: Morgan Stanley is not acting as a municipal advisor and the opinions or views contained herein are not intended to be, and do not constitute, advice within the meaning of Section 975 of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy all electronic and paper copies and notify the sender immediately. Mistransmission is not intended to waive confidentiality or privilege. Morgan Stanley reserves the right, to the extent permitted under applicable law, to monitor electronic communications. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.morganstanley.com/disclaimers If you cannot access these links, please notify us by reply message and we will send the contents to you. By messaging with Morgan Stanley you consent to the foregoing.
To answer the question of where to find these rule names, the history of rule names is found in the Zone definition lines of the source. For example, for Asia/Karachi: # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Asia/Karachi 4:28:12 - LMT 1907 5:30 - IST 1942 Sep 5:30 1:00 IST 1945 Oct 15 5:30 - IST 1951 Sep 30 5:00 - KART 1971 Mar 26 # Karachi Time 5:00 Pakistan PK%sT # Pakistan Time A rule of 1:00 advancement was applied from 1942 Sep until 1945 Oct 15, and the ruleset named "Pakistan" has been applied since 1971 Mar 26. You can then look at the Rule definition lines named "Pakistan" to see that DST has only been applied in 2002, 2008, and 2009: # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Pakistan 2002 only - Apr Sun>=2 0:01 1:00 S Rule Pakistan 2002 only - Oct Sun>=2 0:01 0 - Rule Pakistan 2008 only - Jun 1 0:00 1:00 S Rule Pakistan 2008 only - Nov 1 0:00 0 - Rule Pakistan 2009 only - Apr 15 0:00 1:00 S Rule Pakistan 2009 only - Nov 1 0:00 0 - -- Tim Parenti On 1 February 2013 11:41, Osko, Galatea <Galatea.Osko@morganstanley.com>wrote:
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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 16:41:27 +0000 From: "Osko, Galatea" <Galatea.Osko@morganstanley.com> Message-ID: <45DF782DF3A8CF429AFEE49ED2F9FF700B90EE6E@OZWEX0202N2.msad.ms.com> | Can anyone please advise on where I can find the Rule name history | for each country/region? If you really mean the rule history, then you might mean one of two things, either what times applied going back in history, for which (as much as we know) you can just look in the sources for the data files (the actual data, and comments to explain why it is as it is) can be found there. If you mean the history of the tz project, in that you're trying to check how we have updated the rules over time as things have changed, or we have obtained more information, then you can fetch copies of (just about) every tz release that has ever been made from either the iana server, or (using ftp only) from munnari.oz.au (in pub/old-tz) and analyse them yourself. On the other hand, if you really mean the history of the rule names, then that makes no real sense, and would be pointless. | The data I'm interested in is as follows: | | - AQ, Oz: I don't know to which area/country this is referring to as it is | not listed on tiscali AQ represents two different things in tzdata - it is the country code for antarctica, and it is the name for the rules for Queensland (Aust). OZ doesn't appear in the tzdata at all (and never has) other than as a part of the domain name munnari.oz.au | - C-Eur, E-EurAsia - are these valid/active rule names in use? Yes, they are. C-Eur gives some rules that apply in central Europe. E-Eur is for eastern Europe, E-EurAsia is a copy of come of the E-Eur rules that apply in Tbilisi (which is in Asia). We don't do cross-file rules, so the rules for Asia need to be in the asia file, and E-EurAsia is what we call those. | And I also have some other countries like Pakistan, Palestine where I would | like to check the DST history. For those you just look in the tzdata source files (of course, you only get as much information as we have managed to collect, and some of our historical information - anything before 1970 - is a bit sketchy, and could be inaccurate (corrections, especially when supported by good sources, always appreciated.) I still cannot even begin to understand what you're looking for when you're concentrating on rule names - they have absolutely no independent meaning at all. The rules are useful information, their names are just a label so the rules can be referred to. kre
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