> This is also helpful. It suggests that we can fix
the short names at the
> CLDR level by removing the text "<daylight>IST</daylight>"
from the
> en-IE locale. That way, implementers can fall back for Irish time
in
> Ireland the same way that they fall back for Irish time in the US
(or
> for US time in the US, for that matter).
>
> This leaves the long names, but there is a simple workaround for that,
> too. We can change the long names for standard and daylight saving
time
> in Ireland to be just "Irish Time". This string will work
regardless of
> whether UTC+00 or UTC+01 is considered to be standard time in Ireland,
> so it will be portable to both the current and the proposed tzdb data.
> Although it is not ideal for either the old or the new approaches,
it is
> a reasonable compromise that is compatible with both.
>
> So: how about the attached patch to CLDR? I have not tested this:
I'm
> just suggesting it as an idea for moving forward. If this patch does
not
> work, I hope that a similar patch would work.
CLDR set an assumption that standard and daylight
names must be different.
So the patch does not work. (BTW, you might disagree
that we set such
assumption. I think TZ database does not prohibit
a same abbreviation
used for standard and daylight at a time, although
it is unlikely.)
Paul, I really appreciate your thoughtful thinking
for this issue.
I read through suggestions from various people in
this mailing list.
In my honest opinion, the best option for us (as CLDR
project contributor
and consumer) is that TZ database to give up the change
resulting
standard/daylight name swapped for Ireland. But I
also understand TZ
database wants to fix the mistake introduced long
time ago.
If TZ database project insists to make the change,
CLDR project has to
decide whether we should swap standard/dalight name
in CLDR, and if
we do, when is the right time (CLDR has 2 official
releases every year,
although time zone related metadata (not display names)
are updated
in repository when necessary).
Since this issue came up, we really did not have chance
to talk about
this topic deeply in CLDR project, because we're currently
busy on
cleaning up updated locale data (not just for time
zones) for next
release (CLDR 33, March). Please let me bring this
topic to CLDR project
team. We want to discuss possible options and impacts
there. I cannot
simply tell you we're going to do without other technical
committee
members' agreement.
Thanks,
Yoshito