February 2011 - tz - lists.iana.org

Chile contemplating delay in time change
by Andy Heninger Feb. 23, 2011

Feb. 23, 2011

Chile contemplating delay in time change. No concrete proposals or decisions. http://www.elsur.cl/base_elsur/site/artic/20110222/pags/20110222102645.html <http://www.elsur.cl/base_elsur/site/artic/20110222/pags/20110222102645.html> http://www.puranoticia.cl/titular5/gobierno-estudia-retrasar-cambio-horario… <http://www.elsur.cl/base_elsur/site/artic/20110222/pags/20110222102645.html>And many similar press articles. Search for cambio de horas Chile Golborne With help from Google Translate, "The Biministro of Mines and Energy, Laurence Golborne confirmed Tuesday that the government is evaluating the option to postpone the change to winter time due to the energy crisis in the country. "The change is currently scheduled for Saturday March 12, but the possible postponement is part of the rationalization of energy that drives the government." "Golborne said "that is being evaluated, is a subject that has a relatively low impact on consumption but may have a significant impact on communication and citizenship," he said."

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Macau
by jrl Feb. 23, 2011

Feb. 23, 2011

The rule for Macau ends in 1980 but its Zone indicates that the rules end in 1999. What is the correct rule for Macau from 1980 through 1999? Did they return to LMT? Rule Macau 1975 1977 - Apr Sun>=15 3:30 1:00 S Rule Macau 1978 1980 - Apr Sun>=15 0:00 1:00 S Rule Macau 1978 1980 - Oct Sun>=15 0:00 0 - # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Asia/Macau 7:34:20 - LMT 1912 8:00 Macau MO%sT 1999 Dec 20 # return to China 8:00 PRC C%sT

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Incorrect change in System time
by puru sothaman Feb. 20, 2011

Feb. 20, 2011

Hi all, I have written my own rule for customized timezone.The user will provide start and end time for the DST settings.According to that the rule will change and timezone is compiled using "zic". Problem: The Program works fine for all other days.When i give the start time as 2003 jan wed 00:03 and end time as 2003 dec tue 22:05.When i changed my system time to 2003 jan 1 00:00, the system time immediately changed to 22:00.This is not expected behavior as it should change time only on 00:03. When i checked the localtime using "zdump" the "DST" is off for 2003. Kindly help me. Kindly excuse me if anything is wrong on the above mail as i am new to the group. Regards, Purusothaman R

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tz mailing list
by Bruce Camber Feb. 18, 2011

Feb. 18, 2011

Would you please add me to the tz mailing lists? Thank you. Bruce * Primary Interest*: *Separate the 24 Time Zones from the Universal Time Code (UTC)*. Currently time zones around the world are expressed as an offset from UTC. Of course, we should continue to use UTC to set the time within each time zone, but *not as the designation of that time zone*. It confuses schoolchildren and the business world. *We need to be referring to each time zone as their number, 1 through 24*. It helps to facilitate global thinking <http://smallbusinessschool.org/page1856.html>. *More*...<http://smallbusinessschool.org/page2424.html> C: 214.801.8521 T: 504.305.4510 Skype: Bruce.Camber Bruce Camber, Executive Producer Small Business School, Inc. Private Business Channel, Inc. http://SmallBusinessSchool.org <http://smallbusinessschool.org/> As further backgrounder info. * Small Business School has a sixteen-year history as a weekly, half-hour television show. On over 200 PBS stations in the USA and on several thousand stations around the world via the Voice of America, the focus has always been on best business practices. http://smallbusinessschool.org/page18.html * Every business owner has been recommended by their local business advocates, often the local Chamber of Commerce, and confirmed by their national trade association for their leadership, generosity of spirit, ethics, and courage. Nobody can pay or has ever paid to be on this show. http://smallbusinessschool.org/page898.html * Over 40 of the best-selling business textbooks published by Pearson-Prentice Hall and Thomson Learning-Cengage include these case study guides and video: http://smallbusinessschool.org/page2162.html

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Tomsk wrong timezone
by Jesper Norgaard Welen Feb. 18, 2011

Feb. 18, 2011

A quote from the 'europe' file: # Novosibirskaya oblast'. Zone Asia/Novosibirsk 5:31:40 - LMT 1919 Dec 14 6:00 6:00 - NOVT 1930 Jun 21 # Novosibirsk Time 7:00 Russia NOV%sT 1991 Mar 31 2:00s 6:00 Russia NOV%sT 1992 Jan 19 2:00s 7:00 Russia NOV%sT 1993 May 23 # say Shanks & P. 6:00 Russia NOV%sT # # From Oscar van Vlijmen (2001-08-25): [This region consists of] # Kemerovskaya oblast', Krasnoyarskij kraj, # Tajmyrskij (Dolgano-Nenetskij) avtonomnyj okrug, Tomskaya oblast', # Respublika Tuva, Respublika Khakasiya, Evenkijskij avtonomnyj okrug. Zone Asia/Krasnoyarsk 6:11:20 - LMT 1920 Jan 6 6:00 - KRAT 1930 Jun 21 # Krasnoyarsk Time 7:00 Russia KRA%sT 1991 Mar 31 2:00s 6:00 Russia KRA%sT 1992 Jan 19 2:00s 7:00 Russia KRA%sT In fact, it seems that Tomsk city and Tomskaya oblast' is part of the Novosibirsk timezone, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomskaya_Oblast%27%2C_Russia and http://www.admin.tomsk.ru/1024 ... the latter, if you don't understand russian, look at the time under the green horse. I don't know if this simply means that Tomskaya oblast' changed timezone since 2001, which is a possibility, that would then require a new timezone. Regards, - Jesper Jesper Nørgaard Welen Email: jnorgard(a)Prodigy.Net.mx Project Leader (Líder de Proyecto) Software CIMMYT - Centro Internacional de Mejoramiento de Maíz y Trigo Dirección: CIMMYT Int. c/o Jesper Nørgaard Km. 45, Carretera México-Veracruz El Batán Texcoco, Edo. de México CP 56130 MEXICO Tel.: +52 (55) 58-04-20-04 ext. 1374 Fax: +52 (55) 58-04-75-58 Tel. Casa: 53-10-05-95 ó 53-10-97-78 Download the shareware program World Time Explorer, I made: http://www.worldtimeexplorer.com/index.html

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Turkish dispute over date of daylight saving time change
by Alexander Krivenyshev Feb. 17, 2011

Feb. 17, 2011

Turkish dispute over date of daylight saving time change http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=69929 "Turkey plans to switch to daylight saving time on March 27 at 3 a.m., moving clocks forward one hour to make better use of daylight, but Turkish educators object to the plan because 1.5 million students will take a nationwide exam on that day." Alexander Krivenyshev, http://www.worldtimezone.com

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Is this a bug in the upstream or just Ubuntu (10.04LTS)?
by Stephen (Esteban) McCracken Feb. 17, 2011

Feb. 17, 2011

The GMT-x and GMT+x in the "ETC" section are flipped/backwards. (Arizona should be GMT-7, but equates to GMT+7). Quito/Bogota should be GMT-5, but GMT-5 is giving GMT+5. See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/720792

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FW: Revisiting Australian time zone abbreviations
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 16, 2011

Feb. 16, 2011

I'm (trepidatiously) forwarding this message from Richard Stanway, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado From: Richard Stanway [mailto:r.stanway@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:49 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Revisiting Australian time zone abbreviations Hello, I came across this mailing list while researching a time zone issue on our website which indirectly makes use of the zoneinfo. We localize some timestamps to the visitors time zone, but the site is trafficked by a predominately US audience where the abbreviation "EST" is used quite often. It is difficult for an Australian visitor to realize that the times they are seeing have been localized since they show for example as "8pm EST" due to the abbreviations used for the Australian time zones, leading to confusion as to whether it is US EST or AU EST. The last discussion on AEST vs EST seems to be about 9 years old and I figured it was time to revisit the subject now that there seems to be an official source. The government website of Australia states the time zone names for Australia are Australian Eastern Standard Time (AEST), Australian Central Standard Time (ACST) and Australian Western Standard Time (AWST) with Australian Eastern Daylight Time (AEDT) and Australian Central Daylight Time (ACDT) when observing daylight saving time. Reference: http://australia.gov.au/about-australia/our-country/time Any chance of these official names making it into a zoneinfo update?

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FW: [casting; overflow detection]
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 14, 2011

Feb. 14, 2011

I'm forwarding this message from Christos Zoulas. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Christos Zoulas [mailto:christos@zoulas.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 8:50 To: Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Subject: Hi, Mail to the tz mailing list does not seem to go through from my server. E82CA564C4 2128 Thu Jan 13 04:00:52 christos(a)zoulas.com (connect to lecserver.nci.nih.gov[137.187.215.78]: Operation timed out) tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov I I sent the following two messages: Best, christos >From christos Wed Jan 12 11:49:47 2011 From: christos(a)rebar.astron.com (Christos Zoulas) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 11:49:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: <201101121624.p0CGOrGD018457(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov> from Arthur David Olson (Jan 12, 11:24am) Organization: Astron Software X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(4.pl1)+dynamic 20000103) To: <tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov>, <tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov> Subject: Re: proposed time zone package changes (Hawaii, stack overflow, et al.) Status: OR On Jan 12, 11:24am, olsona(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson) wrote: -- Subject: proposed time zone package changes (Hawaii, stack overflow, et al | If no problems are found, these changes will appear in tzcode2011a.tar.gz | and tzdata2011.tar.gz on 2011-11-23. Please don't cast the result of calloc(3). It will hide errors where the prototype is not in scope and then the function is assumed to return "int" which breaks on 64 bit systems. It's been more than 20 years (22 actually since c89) since ANSI C made allocation functions return "void *" :-) On a different subject, I've committed the reentrant versions of the timezone code to the NetBSD tree. Is there any chance that those changes will be merged anytime soon? Or do people need more time to review them? How do we go about accepting or rejecting them? Should there be a vote? Best, christos >From christos Wed Jan 12 23:00:52 2011 From: christos(a)rebar.astron.com (Christos Zoulas) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 23:00:52 -0500 Organization: Astron Software X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(4.pl1)+dynamic 20000103) To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Gcc and integer overflow Status: OR Hello, Integer overflow in ansi c has undefined behavior. Gcc 4.5.x takes advantage of this fact to optimize code. In particular you cannot depend anymore on: int oldx = x; x += delta; if ((oldx > x && delta > 0) || (oldx < x && delta < 0)) overflow; What happens in fact, is that gcc will warn, and drop the code that is "impossible" (drop the whole if statement). Unfortunately tzcode relies on the above behavior to detect overflow. I have changed the code the following way (but I have not tested it), so if you please can you check my work, or propose a better way to do it. I think we should come up with a viable solution for the next tzcode release. Many thanks, christos Index: localtime.c =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/src/lib/libc/time/localtime.c,v retrieving revision 1.51 diff -u -u -r1.51 localtime.c --- localtime.c 6 Jan 2011 02:41:34 -0000 1.51 +++ localtime.c 10 Jan 2011 21:32:09 -0000 @@ -1703,9 +1703,16 @@ { int number0; + if (delta == 0) + return 0; + number0 = *number; *number += delta; - return (*number < number0) != (delta < 0); + + if (delta < 0) + return number0 < 0 && (-*number + INT_MIN) > delta; + else /* delta > 0 */ + return number0 > 0 && (INT_MAX - *number) < delta; } static int @@ -1713,9 +1720,16 @@ { long number0; + if (delta == 0) + return 0; + number0 = *number; *number += delta; - return (*number < number0) != (delta < 0); + + if (delta < 0) + return number0 < 0 && (-*number + LONG_MIN) > delta; + else /* delta > 0 */ + return number0 > 0 && (LONG_MAX - *number) < delta; } static int

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Fwd: Question about time period transition points
by Mike Giroux Feb. 14, 2011

Feb. 14, 2011

Wise ones of the TZ list, A (quite academic, but possibly interesting) question came up here as we're trying to document the behaviour of our time zone code. We're trying to figure out whether the transition time is reached or skipped. For example, for these 2 rules, # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule TC 1979 1986 - Apr lastSun 2:00 1:00 D Rule TC 1979 2006 - Oct lastSun 2:00 0 S does the clock reach "2:00" on the transition days? In that case, the transition would go from "2:00(S)" -> "3:00(D) + epsilon" when moving forward, and "2:00(D)" -> "1:00(S) + epsilon" when moving back. Or does it go from "2:00(S) - epsilon" -> "3:00(D)" and "2:00(D) - epsilon" -> "1:00(S)" ? If the transition time IS reached, which "name" would attach to it? Phrased differently, for the Americas/NewYork transitions this spring: 1) Is the time coordinate value at the instant of transition "2:00 AM" or "3:00 AM" (NIST says "begins at 2:00 a.m. on the second Sunday of March") 2) Is the designation of that coordinate (in the local New York City timezone) "EDT" or "EST"? Thanks! Mike

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