September 2008 - tz - lists.iana.org

Another update for Brazil in the next time?
by Oliver Gerber Sept. 22, 2008

Sept. 22, 2008

Hello everyone, will there be another update for Brazil in the next time as it was announced in the 2008f release e-mail? Are there already plans when it may be released? Best regards, Oliver Oliver Gerber Diplom-Informatiker Software Engineer Cardinal Health Research Services Cardinal Health Germany 234 GmbH Leibnizstraße 7 97204 Höchberg, Germany Amtsgericht Würzburg HRB 7004 Geschäftsführer: Ralf Lother, Paul ter Grote Tel. +49 (0)931 4972 276 Fax +49 (0)931 4972 62276 oliver.gerber(a)cardinalhealth.com www.cardinalhealth.com/researchservices

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FW: webpage out of zone-page
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Sept. 22, 2008

Sept. 22, 2008

I'm forwarding this message from tsv(a)tbbs.net, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the time zone mailing list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: hsv(a)tbbs.net [mailto:hsv@tbbs.net] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:16 To: Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Cc: tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov Subject: webpage out of zone-page I hav written Javascript that within Firefox turns the zone-pages into webpages <home.tbbs.net/hsv/DST>. I hope that that is all right.

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Shapefiles for tz timezones and maps for 2008
by Eric Muller Sept. 19, 2008

Sept. 19, 2008

I am pleased to announce a first version of a shapefile for tz timezones of the world, available at <http://efele.net/maps/tz/>. There is still work to do: clarify some details, define a strategy for Greenland and Antarctica, clean up the US portion, figure out the licensing (the goal is something like CC-BY-SA or GFDL, at least for the parts I have rights to), so consider this a beta version. Also, no guarantee for now that the URLs will be stable. If you don't know how to deal with shapefiles, you may still want to look at the pages, I have included maps as pngs. There are also a number of freely available tools to view and/or edit shapefiles, such as OpenJump. I have also generated a couple of maps to visualize 2008 at <http://efele.net/maps/tz/2008>. They may be helpful to QA the tz database itself. I have many folks to thank for their help in producing all this (see the thanks page), but I want to particularly thank Gwillem Law, Jesper Nørgaard Welen, Chris Walton, and of course the tz team. Suggestions are welcome, Eric.

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FW: Brazil DST changes - Mailing list and new diffs
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Sept. 19, 2008

Sept. 19, 2008

I'm forwarding this message from Frederico A. C. Neves, who was not on the time zone mailing list at the time it was sent. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Frederico A C Neves [mailto:fneves@registro.br] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 1:28 To: Olson(a)registro.br; Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Subject: Brazil DST changes - Mailing list and new diffs Dear Mr. Olson, I've tried to subscribe to the TZ mailing list apparently without success. I've a new diff file with 2 corrected typos. I'm sending the message direct to you because I saw your message at the archives talking about the subject I sent originally. I can't find my message at the archives. Regards, Frederico Neves

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Zone America/Argentina/[location]
by Mario Callisto Sept. 19, 2008

Sept. 19, 2008

Hi, is there a reason why zones of Argentina are named Zone America/Argentina/[location] (example: America/Argentina/Mendoza) while all others seem to follow a different convention, i.e Zone [continent]/[location] (example for country Brazil: America/Recife)? Thank you in advance for yr reply. Best, Mario

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webpage out of zone-page
by hsv＠tbbs.net Sept. 18, 2008

Sept. 18, 2008

I hav written Javascript that within Firefox turns the zone-pages into webpages <home.tbbs.net/hsv/DST>. I hope that that is all right.

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Kwajalein/Majuro division and others
by Jesper Norgaard Welen Sept. 16, 2008

Sept. 16, 2008

Thanks for the feedback Eric, I appreciate it. ============ Eric Muller wrote ========================================= I spot-checked a few things, and thought you would like to know: - it seems that the polygon for the south east corner of British Columbia is missing (at least, I don't have it in OpenJump) - I don't see the equivalent of the Australia/Eucla timezone - I think the Kwajelein timezone is at most the Kwajelein atoll (and at least those islands of the atoll that are leased by the US), and your zone seems to include islands from other atolls (Maloelap, Erikub, Wotje, Ailuk) ==================================================================== I think everything is OK in the south east corner of British Columbia - how do you spot it is missing? There are timezone shapes for Cranbrook (which is probably what you refer to) and Creston, apart from Dawson Creek to the north-west, and Lloydminster in the Saskatchewan area, all independent timezones. You are right about Eucla. The city is there in World Time Explorer, with correct timezone information, but I never created a shape for Eucla since I don't know the extension of it. Do you have any authoritative info (or even hear-say)? The Kwajalein question is interesting (as the teacher says when he doesn't know the answer). I have no authoritative information about this, so it is quite probable that you have found one or several errors. Wikipedia divides the Marshall Islands in the Ratak Chain (Sunrise Eastern) and Ralik Chain (Sunset, Western). Majuro is part of the former, and Kwajalein of the latter, but I'm not sure if geographic/administrative regions can be directly related to timezones, so that everything in one Chain belongs to that timezone (that would certainly be an easy solution, probably too easy). In that case you are right that Maloelap, Erikub, Wotje, Ailuk all should belong to the Majuro timezone - it would also mean the following additional changes >From Majuro timezone to Kwajalein timezone: Ailingalap, Namorik, Jabwot, Namu, >From Kwajalein timezone to Majuro timezone: Bikar. ============ Eric Muller wrote ========================================= You may want to check the licensing terms of your source data. I don't really understand the practices for maps, but I suspect your map is a derived work, and that you don't have complete freedom for the licensing terms. ==================================================================== You might be right about this. At least the base world map was part of the ESRI shapefile collection, and thus have a license attached, so that derived works can be made and used, but would not give complete licensing freedom. I think I have worked quite a lot to create added (timezone) value to the map, but the consideration exists. Regards, - Jesper Nørgaard Welen No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1667 - Release Date: 2008-09-11 18:55

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proposed time zone data changes
by Arthur David Olson Sept. 16, 2008

Sept. 16, 2008

Below find proposed changes to data files in the time zone package. The executive summary: africa Mauritius DST 2008 ff. from last Sun Oct to last Sun Mar (per Riad M. Hossen Ally) Morocco End of DST 2008 ff. changed from Sep 28 to Sep 1 (per Steffen Thorsen) asia Gaza End of DST 2008 ff. changed from second Thu in Sep to last Thu in Aug (per Alexander Krivenyshev) Pakistan End of DST 2008 only changed from Sep 1 to Nov 1 (per Alexander Krivenyshev) europe Turkey Add comments about proposed changes in 2011 (per Sue Williams) southamerica Argentina Start of DST 2008 ff. changed from first to third Sun (per Alexander Krivenyshev) Brazil Start of DST 2008 ff. changed from second to third Sun (per Steffen Thorsen) I'll let these percolate until 2008-09-15; if no one reports problems, the ftp archives will be updated to reflect these changes. --ado diff -r -c old/africa new/africa *** old/africa Sun Jul 20 15:47:07 2008 --- new/africa Sun Sep 7 15:42:40 2008 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! # @(#)africa 8.15 # <pre> # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better, --- 1,4 ---- ! # @(#)africa 8.16 # <pre> # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better, *************** *** 436,446 **** # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_mauritius02.html # </a> # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Mauritius 1982 only - Oct 10 0:00 1:00 S Rule Mauritius 1983 only - Mar 21 0:00 0 - ! Rule Mauritius 2008 only - Oct 26 2:00s 1:00 S ! Rule Mauritius 2009 only - Mar 27 2:00s 0 - # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Indian/Mauritius 3:50:00 - LMT 1907 # Port Louis 4:00 Mauritius MU%sT # Mauritius Time --- 436,463 ---- # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_mauritius02.html # </a> + # From Riad M. Hossen Ally (2008-08-03): + # The Government of Mauritius weblink + # <a href="http://www.gov.mu/portal/site/pmosite/menuitem.4ca0efdee47462e7440a600248a5…"> + # http://www.gov.mu/portal/site/pmosite/menuitem.4ca0efdee47462e7440a600248a5… + # </a> + # Cabinet Decision of July 18th, 2008 states as follows: + # + # 4. ...Cabinet has agreed to the introduction into the National Assembly + # of the Time Bill which provides for the introduction of summer time in + # Mauritius. The summer time period which will be of one hour ahead of + # the standard time, will be aligned with that in Europe and the United + # States of America. It will start at two o'clock in the morning on the + # last Sunday of October and will end at two o'clock in the morning on + # the last Sunday of March the following year. The summer time for the + # year 2008 - 2009 will, therefore, be effective as from 26 October 2008 + # and end on 29 March 2009. + # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Mauritius 1982 only - Oct 10 0:00 1:00 S Rule Mauritius 1983 only - Mar 21 0:00 0 - ! Rule Mauritius 2008 max - Oct lastSun 2:00 1:00 S ! Rule Mauritius 2009 max - Mar lastSun 2:00 0 - # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Indian/Mauritius 3:50:00 - LMT 1907 # Port Louis 4:00 Mauritius MU%sT # Mauritius Time *************** *** 525,531 **** --- 542,563 ---- # From Arthur David Olson (2008-05-09): # XXX--guess that it is only Morocco for now; guess only 2008 for now. + # From Steffen Thorsen (2008-08-27): + # Morocco will change the clocks back on the midnight between August 31 + # and September 1. They originally planned to observe DST to near the end + # of September: + # + # One article about it (in French): + # <a href="http://www.menara.ma/fr/Actualites/Maroc/Societe/ci.retour_a_l_heure_gmt_a_…"> + # http://www.menara.ma/fr/Actualites/Maroc/Societe/ci.retour_a_l_heure_gmt_a_… + # </a> + # + # We have some further details posted here: + # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html"> + # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html + # </a> # RULE NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S + Rule Morocco 1939 only - Sep 12 0:00 1:00 S Rule Morocco 1939 only - Nov 19 0:00 0 - Rule Morocco 1940 only - Feb 25 0:00 1:00 S *************** *** 542,548 **** Rule Morocco 1978 only - Jun 1 0:00 1:00 S Rule Morocco 1978 only - Aug 4 0:00 0 - Rule Morocco 2008 only - Jun 1 0:00 1:00 S ! Rule Morocco 2008 only - Sep 28 0:00 0 - # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Africa/Casablanca -0:30:20 - LMT 1913 Oct 26 0:00 Morocco WE%sT 1984 Mar 16 --- 574,580 ---- Rule Morocco 1978 only - Jun 1 0:00 1:00 S Rule Morocco 1978 only - Aug 4 0:00 0 - Rule Morocco 2008 only - Jun 1 0:00 1:00 S ! Rule Morocco 2008 only - Sep 1 0:00 0 - # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Africa/Casablanca -0:30:20 - LMT 1913 Oct 26 0:00 Morocco WE%sT 1984 Mar 16 diff -r -c old/asia new/asia *** old/asia Sun Jul 20 15:09:44 2008 --- new/asia Sun Sep 7 15:42:40 2008 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! # @(#)asia 8.22 # <pre> # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better, --- 1,4 ---- ! # @(#)asia 8.23 # <pre> # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better, *************** *** 1541,1551 **** # From Arthur David Olson (2008-05-19): # XXX--midnight transitions is a guess; 2008 only is a guess. # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Pakistan 2002 only - Apr Sun>=2 0:01 1:00 S Rule Pakistan 2002 only - Oct Sun>=2 0:01 0 - Rule Pakistan 2008 only - Jun 1 0:00 1:00 S ! Rule Pakistan 2008 only - Sep 1 0:00 0 - # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Asia/Karachi 4:28:12 - LMT 1907 5:30 - IST 1942 Sep --- 1541,1564 ---- # From Arthur David Olson (2008-05-19): # XXX--midnight transitions is a guess; 2008 only is a guess. + # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2008-08-28): + # Pakistan government has decided to keep the watches one-hour advanced + # for another 2 months--plan to return to Standard Time on October 31 + # instead of August 31. + # + # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_pakistan02.html"> + # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_pakistan02.html + # </a> + # OR + # <a href="http://dailymailnews.com/200808/28/news/dmbrn03.html"> + # http://dailymailnews.com/200808/28/news/dmbrn03.html + # </a> + # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Pakistan 2002 only - Apr Sun>=2 0:01 1:00 S Rule Pakistan 2002 only - Oct Sun>=2 0:01 0 - Rule Pakistan 2008 only - Jun 1 0:00 1:00 S ! Rule Pakistan 2008 only - Nov 1 0:00 0 - # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Asia/Karachi 4:28:12 - LMT 1907 5:30 - IST 1942 Sep *************** *** 1665,1670 **** --- 1678,1700 ---- # For lack of better information, predict that future changes will be # the 2nd Thursday of September at 02:00. + # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2008-08-28): + # Here is an article, that Mideast running on different clocks at Ramadan. + # + # Gaza Strip (as Egypt) ended DST at midnight Thursday (Aug 28, 2008), while + # the West Bank will end Daylight Saving Time at midnight Sunday (Aug 31, 2008). + # + # <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/7759001"> + # http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/7759001 + # </a> + # <a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=5676087"> + # http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=5676087 + # </a> + # or + # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_gazastrip01.html"> + # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_gazastrip01.html + # </a> + # The rules for Egypt are stolen from the `africa' file. # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule EgyptAsia 1957 only - May 10 0:00 1:00 S *************** *** 1680,1686 **** Rule Palestine 2005 only - Oct 4 2:00 0 - Rule Palestine 2006 max - Apr 1 0:00 1:00 S Rule Palestine 2006 only - Sep 22 0:00 0 - ! Rule Palestine 2007 max - Sep Thu>=8 2:00 0 - # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Asia/Gaza 2:17:52 - LMT 1900 Oct --- 1710,1717 ---- Rule Palestine 2005 only - Oct 4 2:00 0 - Rule Palestine 2006 max - Apr 1 0:00 1:00 S Rule Palestine 2006 only - Sep 22 0:00 0 - ! Rule Palestine 2007 only - Sep Thu>=8 2:00 0 - ! Rule Palestine 2008 max - Aug lastThu 2:00 0 - # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Asia/Gaza 2:17:52 - LMT 1900 Oct diff -r -c old/europe new/europe *** old/europe Mon Jul 28 14:10:59 2008 --- new/europe Sun Sep 7 15:42:41 2008 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! # @(#)europe 8.17 # <pre> # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better, --- 1,4 ---- ! # @(#)europe 8.18 # <pre> # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better, *************** *** 2353,2358 **** --- 2353,2379 ---- # (on a non-government server though) describing dates between 2002 and 2006: # http://www.alomaliye.com/bkk_2002_3769.htm + # From Sue Williams (2008-08-11): + # I spotted this news article about a potential change in Turkey. + # + # <a href="http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/9626174.asp?scr=1"> + # http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/9626174.asp?scr=1 + # </a> + + # From Sue Williams (2008-08-20): + # This article says that around the end of March 2011, Turkey wants to + # adjust the clocks forward by 1/2 hour and stay that way permanently. + # The article indicates that this is a change in timezone offset in addition + # to stopping observance of DST. + # This proposal has not yet been approved. + # + # Read more here... + # + # Turkey to abandon daylight saving time in 2011 + # <a href="http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=112989"> + # http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=112989 + # </a> + # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Turkey 1916 only - May 1 0:00 1:00 S Rule Turkey 1916 only - Oct 1 0:00 0 - diff -r -c old/southamerica new/southamerica *** old/southamerica Mon Jul 7 09:51:38 2008 --- new/southamerica Sun Sep 7 15:42:41 2008 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! # @(#)southamerica 8.26 # <pre> # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better, --- 1,4 ---- ! # @(#)southamerica 8.27 # <pre> # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better, *************** *** 164,172 **** # From Paul Eggert (2007-12-22): # For dates after mid-2008, the following rules are my guesses and # are quite possibly wrong, but are more likely than no DST at all. Rule Arg 2007 only - Dec 30 0:00 1:00 S Rule Arg 2008 max - Mar Sun>=15 0:00 0 - ! Rule Arg 2008 max - Oct Sun>=1 0:00 1:00 S # From Mariano Absatz (2004-05-21): # Today it was officially published that the Province of Mendoza is changing --- 164,185 ---- # From Paul Eggert (2007-12-22): # For dates after mid-2008, the following rules are my guesses and # are quite possibly wrong, but are more likely than no DST at all. + + # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2008-09-05): + # As per message from Carlos Alberto Fonseca Arauz (Nicaragua), + # Argentina will start DST on Sunday October 19, 2008. + # + # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_argentina03.html"> + # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_argentina03.html + # </a> + # OR + # <a href="http://www.impulsobaires.com.ar/nota.php?id=57832 (in spanish)"> + # http://www.impulsobaires.com.ar/nota.php?id=57832 (in spanish) + # </a> + Rule Arg 2007 only - Dec 30 0:00 1:00 S Rule Arg 2008 max - Mar Sun>=15 0:00 0 - ! Rule Arg 2008 max - Oct Sun>=15 0:00 1:00 S # From Mariano Absatz (2004-05-21): # Today it was officially published that the Province of Mendoza is changing *************** *** 591,596 **** --- 604,639 ---- # Decretos sobre o Horario de Verao no Brasil # </a>. + # From Steffen Thorsen (2008-08-29): + # As announced by the government and many newspapers in Brazil late + # yesterday, Brazil will start DST on 2008-10-19 (need to change rule) and + # it will end on 2009-02-15 (current rule for Brazil is fine). Based on + # past years experience with the elections, there was a good chance that + # the start was postponed to November, but it did not happen this year. + # + # It has not yet been posted to http://pcdsh01.on.br/DecHV.html + # + # An official page about it: + # <a href="http://www.mme.gov.br/site/news/detail.do?newsId=16722"> + # http://www.mme.gov.br/site/news/detail.do?newsId=16722 + # </a> + # Note that this link does not always work directly, but must be accessed + # by going to + # <a href="http://www.mme.gov.br/first>" + # http://www.mme.gov.br/first + # </a> + # + # One example link that works directly: + # <a href="http://jornale.com.br/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13530&Itemi…"> + # http://jornale.com.br/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13530&Itemi… + # (Portuguese) + # </a> + # + # We have a written a short article about it as well: + # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/brazil-dst-2008-2009.html"> + # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/brazil-dst-2008-2009.html + # </a> + # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S # Decree <a href="http://pcdsh01.on.br/HV20466.htm">20,466</a> (1931-10-01) # Decree <a href="http://pcdsh01.on.br/HV21896.htm">21,896</a> (1932-01-10) *************** *** 724,731 **** Rule Brazil 2007 only - Feb 25 0:00 0 - # Decree <a href="http://pcdsh01.on.br/DecHV6212.gif">6,212</a> (2007-09-26), # adopted by the same states as before. ! Rule Brazil 2007 max - Oct Sun>=8 0:00 1:00 S Rule Brazil 2008 max - Feb Sun>=15 0:00 0 - # The latest ruleset listed above says that the following states observe DST: # DF, ES, GO, MG, MS, MT, PR, RJ, RS, SC, SP. # For dates after mid-2008, the above rules with TO="max" are guesses --- 767,775 ---- Rule Brazil 2007 only - Feb 25 0:00 0 - # Decree <a href="http://pcdsh01.on.br/DecHV6212.gif">6,212</a> (2007-09-26), # adopted by the same states as before. ! Rule Brazil 2007 only - Oct Sun>=8 0:00 1:00 S Rule Brazil 2008 max - Feb Sun>=15 0:00 0 - + Rule Brazil 2008 max - Oct Sun>=15 0:00 1:00 S # The latest ruleset listed above says that the following states observe DST: # DF, ES, GO, MG, MS, MT, PR, RJ, RS, SC, SP. # For dates after mid-2008, the above rules with TO="max" are guesses

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tzdata2008f.tar.gz
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Sept. 15, 2008

Sept. 15, 2008

The file... ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2008f.tar.gz ...is now available; it reflects changes circulated last week on the time zone mailing list. There may be another update soon to reflect the "perennial" changes to Brazil that appeared last week on the list. --ado

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TZ time zone shapefile
by Jesper Norgaard Welen Sept. 15, 2008

Sept. 15, 2008

Eric Muller wrote: "To my knowledge, there is not yet a publicly available shapefile that covers all the tz timezones, but there are shapefiles that cover "modern" time zones." World Time Explorer (a Windows program that I made) includes a shapefile that is including all tz timezones. Additionally, it contains a DBF file for the shapefile that both represents the names of the shapes, but also connects each shape to WTE's own timezones. Note that often a given timezone spans many little pieces since the land surface is split into many islands. The only problem of mapping the tz timezones to the WTE timezones is just the naming convention, for instance the tz timezone Europe/Uzhgorod is in WTE "Ukraine, Uzhgorod". In most cases this should be straightforward, but some might need a little bit of "digging". Timezones are present in the city.txt file with an "@" in front, and represents the subsequent cities not having an "@" in front. You can use WTE to calculate the map colors for any given time since 1850 till today, where each color represents a given GMT offset. There is an example of how this looks like here: HYPERLINK "http://www.worldtimeexplorer.com/WorldMapBig.gif"http://www.worldtimeexplor er.com/WorldMapBig.gif but also note that calculating the colors is only activated when you have a full (paid) license. On the other hand I consider the shapefile to be publicly available, although I have not supplied it with a proper GNU free license or similar license. P.S: I use "timezone" instead of "time zone" deliberately, although I perhaps agree that "time zone" is better English grammar. One reason is that the Danish language would always put together the words to a single word with a new independent meaning, in Danish "time zone" is "tidszone". But also it is clear that a Google search for "time zone" gives a whole lot of hits for articles referring to time and another pile of hits referring to zone, which really have nothing to do with "time zone". Just my 2 cents. Regards, - Jesper Nørgaard Welen Jesper Nørgaard Welen Email: jnorgard(a)Prodigy.Net.mx Project Leader (Líder de Proyecto) Software CIMMYT - Centro Internacional de Mejoramiento de Maíz y Trigo Dirección: CIMMYT Int. c/o Jesper Nørgaard Km. 45, Carretera México-Veracruz El Batán Texcoco, Edo. de México CP 56130 MEXICO Tel.: +52 (55) 58-04-20-04 ext. 1374 Fax: +52 (55) 58-04-75-58 Tel. Casa: 53-10-05-95 ó 53-10-97-78 Download the shareware program World Time Explorer, I made: HYPERLINK "http://www.worldtimeexplorer.com/index.html"http://www.worldtimeexplorer.co m/index.html No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1667 - Release Date: 2008-09-11 18:55

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