Dear colleagues, during the ICANN meeting we saw full Zoom meeting rooms limited at 300 people and Webinar rooms assumed to be higher than that perhaps thousands of people. Are the limits technical limits, or are they they imposed by the subscriptions that ICANN got? I note the pricing which appears to point out that more than 300 people are possible for a full Zoom room? https://zoom.us/pricing Kindest regards, Olivier
It’s quite possible, that ICANN subscription is “business”, which limits the meeting size to 300. Only “enterprise” or “special contract” can increase it to 500 or 1000. There is no technical limit (despite it’s heavily used this time) If you consider Zoom for your personal use, subscribe for the free “Basic” plan. Even if they do not list you numbers in your country, you can call them (if known) and participate in such meetings by phone. We are using this for our church and school communications (where not all people has access to sufficient hardware or experience for video chats) Von: ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Im Auftrag von Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. März 2020 09:59 An: ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org Betreff: [technology taskforce] Zoom participant limits Dear colleagues, during the ICANN meeting we saw full Zoom meeting rooms limited at 300 people and Webinar rooms assumed to be higher than that perhaps thousands of people. Are the limits technical limits, or are they they imposed by the subscriptions that ICANN got? I note the pricing which appears to point out that more than 300 people are possible for a full Zoom room? https://zoom.us/pricing Kindest regards, Olivier
Hi Olivier It seems that icann did not want to pay more. I was in a zoom room Meeting that had close to 600 people. It was a lecture but the host allowed for people to comment. I ask Joly about the limits and he said even the cheaper pro accounts could have 500 or 1000 people if they paid extra for it. The group was not using webinar From that and looking at the prices is that icann did not want to pay for more than what was available in their plan Best Judith Sent from my iPhone Judith@jhellerstein.com Skype ID:Judithhellerstein
On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:59 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
during the ICANN meeting we saw full Zoom meeting rooms limited at 300 people and Webinar rooms assumed to be higher than that perhaps thousands of people. Are the limits technical limits, or are they they imposed by the subscriptions that ICANN got? I note the pricing which appears to point out that more than 300 people are possible for a full Zoom room? https://zoom.us/pricing
Kindest regards,
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Hi I am working with the Third Age Network and asking directly on the Zoom meeting capacity and they are suppose to send accurate information per pay plan https://zoom.us/pricing All Business features + Enterprise includes 500 participants Enterprise Plus includes 1,000 participants Unlimited Cloud Storage Dedicated Customer Success Manager Executive Business Reviews Bundle discounts on Webinars and Zoom Rooms On Hipchat i was suppose to have a demo with them a week ago but i was tied up with the ISOC BOT meeting but would be interested in a demo if anyone is interested to join it. Of particular interest is the Interpreter feature Another resource is the one Diplo created https://www.diplomacy.edu/conference-tech-lab One thing they have is this Online survey which might be a good idea for us to replicate https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdjhWOxMuki0xJ24dBALHgft6DOKJze2eC3... G Glenn McKnight ICANN NOMCOM 2019-2021 mcknight.glenn@gmail.com Curator for Internet Governance Hub Blog www.internetgovernancehub.blog <http://www.internetgovernancehub.blog> http://toronto.ieee.ca/ IEEE Toronto SIGHT Chair glenn.mcknight@ieee.org skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 . On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:07 AM Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:
Hi Olivier It seems that icann did not want to pay more. I was in a zoom room Meeting that had close to 600 people. It was a lecture but the host allowed for people to comment. I ask Joly about the limits and he said even the cheaper pro accounts could have 500 or 1000 people if they paid extra for it. The group was not using webinar From that and looking at the prices is that icann did not want to pay for more than what was available in their plan
Best Judith
Sent from my iPhone Judith@jhellerstein.com Skype ID:Judithhellerstein
On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:59 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
during the ICANN meeting we saw full Zoom meeting rooms limited at 300 people and Webinar rooms assumed to be higher than that perhaps thousands of people. Are the limits technical limits, or are they they imposed by the subscriptions that ICANN got? I note the pricing which appears to point out that more than 300 people are possible for a full Zoom room? https://zoom.us/pricing
Kindest regards,
Olivier
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Hi Glenn Those are the numbers that come free with those accounts but if you look at the options available you can add extra people to each account for an additional monthly fee. It is an add an fee. This seems to be what organizations are doing Judith Sent from my iPhone Judith@jhellerstein.com Skype ID:Judithhellerstein
On Mar 19, 2020, at 10:09 AM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi I am working with the Third Age Network and asking directly on the Zoom meeting capacity and they are suppose to send accurate information per pay plan https://zoom.us/pricing All Business features +
Enterprise includes 500 participants Enterprise Plus includes 1,000 participants Unlimited Cloud Storage Dedicated Customer Success Manager
Executive Business Reviews Bundle discounts on Webinars and Zoom Rooms
On Hipchat i was suppose to have a demo with them a week ago but i was tied up with the ISOC BOT meeting but would be interested in a demo if anyone is interested to join it. Of particular interest is the Interpreter feature
Another resource is the one Diplo created
https://www.diplomacy.edu/conference-tech-lab
One thing they have is this Online survey which might be a good idea for us to replicate
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdjhWOxMuki0xJ24dBALHgft6DOKJze2eC3...
G
Glenn McKnight ICANN NOMCOM 2019-2021 mcknight.glenn@gmail.com Curator for Internet Governance Hub Blog www.internetgovernancehub.blog http://toronto.ieee.ca/ IEEE Toronto SIGHT Chair glenn.mcknight@ieee.org skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 .
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:07 AM Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote: Hi Olivier It seems that icann did not want to pay more. I was in a zoom room Meeting that had close to 600 people. It was a lecture but the host allowed for people to comment. I ask Joly about the limits and he said even the cheaper pro accounts could have 500 or 1000 people if they paid extra for it. The group was not using webinar From that and looking at the prices is that icann did not want to pay for more than what was available in their plan
Best Judith
Sent from my iPhone Judith@jhellerstein.com Skype ID:Judithhellerstein
On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:59 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
during the ICANN meeting we saw full Zoom meeting rooms limited at 300 people and Webinar rooms assumed to be higher than that perhaps thousands of people. Are the limits technical limits, or are they they imposed by the subscriptions that ICANN got? I note the pricing which appears to point out that more than 300 people are possible for a full Zoom room? https://zoom.us/pricing
Kindest regards,
Olivier _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
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Zoom takes accessibility seriously it seems: https://zoom.us/accessibility One issue that came up when Amadeu who is vision impaired asked a question in the public forum on PIR was that he was required to unmute. He stated that Voiceover was giving speech output on everything on the screen so it took him a while to locate the unmute button. I can't understand why the host couldn't do the unmuting. Gunela Judith Hellerstein wrote on 20/03/2020 02:06 :
Hi All,
Also the matrix that Diplo did is good but they do not rate the accessibility of the plans that they tested. If this field is added as I suggested to them their results would differ remarkably. They were still promoting Adobe Connect and Webex which are some of the most inaccessible plans for people with screen readers or ones using apple's voice over or other related technology . Also the Chat feature in zoom is clickable while it is not in any of the other web providers.
Here is the chart from the zoom website. This is the cost of adding 500 or 1000 to the current number of participants your plan offers.ICANN chose not to purchase the additional add on plan for their current subscription but we could push them to do it for the next virtual meeting
You have the option to purchase up to 1,000 participants with our Large Meeting add-on. Basic (free) plan is not eligible for Large Meeting.
* Participants * 500 * 1000
* Pro/mo/host * $64.99 * $104.99
* Business/mo/host * $69.99 * $109.99
* Enterprise/mo/host * $69.99 * $109.99
Best,
Judith
_________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 E-mail:Judith@jhellerstein.com Website:www.jhellerstein.com Linked In:www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
On 3/19/2020 10:09 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi I am working with the Third Age Network and asking directly on the Zoom meeting capacity and they are suppose to send accurate information per pay plan https://zoom.us/pricing
All Business features +
Enterprise includes 500 participants
Enterprise Plus includes 1,000 participants
Unlimited Cloud Storage Dedicated Customer Success Manager
Executive Business Reviews Bundle discounts on Webinars and Zoom Rooms
On Hipchat i was suppose to have a demo with them a week ago but i was tied up with the ISOC BOT meeting but would be interested in a demo if anyone is interested to join it. Of particular interest is the Interpreter feature
Another resource is the one Diplo created
https://www.diplomacy.edu/conference-tech-lab
One thing they have is this Online survey which might be a good idea for us to replicate
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdjhWOxMuki0xJ24dBALHgft6DOKJze2eC3...
G
Glenn McKnight ICANN NOMCOM 2019-2021 mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> Curator for Internet Governance Hub Blog www.internetgovernancehub.blog <http://www.internetgovernancehub.blog> http://toronto.ieee.ca/ IEEE Toronto SIGHT Chair glenn.mcknight@ieee.org <mailto:glenn.mcknight@ieee.org> skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 .
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:07 AM Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
Hi Olivier It seems that icann did not want to pay more. I was in a zoom room Meeting that had close to 600 people. It was a lecture but the host allowed for people to comment. I ask Joly about the limits and he said even the cheaper pro accounts could have 500 or 1000 people if they paid extra for it. The group was not using webinar From that and looking at the prices is that icann did not want to pay for more than what was available in their plan
Best Judith
Sent from my iPhone Judith@jhellerstein.com <mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Skype ID:Judithhellerstein
On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:59 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
during the ICANN meeting we saw full Zoom meeting rooms limited at 300 people and Webinar rooms assumed to be higher than that perhaps thousands of people. Are the limits technical limits, or are they they imposed by the subscriptions that ICANN got? I note the pricing which appears to point out that more than 300 people are possible for a full Zoom room? https://zoom.us/pricing
Kindest regards,
Olivier _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
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Hi Gunela The host should be able to do the un muting, but in a call with over 100 people it is more difficult. I think they were not aware of his difficulties, If they were using the webinar mode there are 2 mutes and they may only be able to do the first un mute Best Judith Sent from my iPhone Judith@jhellerstein.com Skype ID:Judithhellerstein
On Mar 20, 2020, at 1:37 AM, Gunela Astbrink <g.astbrink@gsa.com.au> wrote:
Zoom takes accessibility seriously it seems: https://zoom.us/accessibility
One issue that came up when Amadeu who is vision impaired asked a question in the public forum on PIR was that he was required to unmute. He stated that Voiceover was giving speech output on everything on the screen so it took him a while to locate the unmute button. I can't understand why the host couldn't do the unmuting.
Gunela
Judith Hellerstein wrote on 20/03/2020 02:06 :
Hi All, Also the matrix that Diplo did is good but they do not rate the accessibility of the plans that they tested. If this field is added as I suggested to them their results would differ remarkably. They were still promoting Adobe Connect and Webex which are some of the most inaccessible plans for people with screen readers or ones using apple's voice over or other related technology . Also the Chat feature in zoom is clickable while it is not in any of the other web providers. Here is the chart from the zoom website. This is the cost of adding 500 or 1000 to the current number of participants your plan offers.ICANN chose not to purchase the additional add on plan for their current subscription but we could push them to do it for the next virtual meeting You have the option to purchase up to 1,000 participants with our Large Meeting add-on. Basic (free) plan is not eligible for Large Meeting. * Participants * 500 * 1000 * Pro/mo/host * $64.99 * $104.99 * Business/mo/host * $69.99 * $109.99 * Enterprise/mo/host * $69.99 * $109.99 Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 E-mail:Judith@jhellerstein.com Website:www.jhellerstein.com Linked In:www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
On 3/19/2020 10:09 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote: Hi I am working with the Third Age Network and asking directly on the Zoom meeting capacity and they are suppose to send accurate information per pay plan https://zoom.us/pricing
All Business features +
Enterprise includes 500 participants
Enterprise Plus includes 1,000 participants
Unlimited Cloud Storage Dedicated Customer Success Manager
Executive Business Reviews Bundle discounts on Webinars and Zoom Rooms
On Hipchat i was suppose to have a demo with them a week ago but i was tied up with the ISOC BOT meeting but would be interested in a demo if anyone is interested to join it. Of particular interest is the Interpreter feature
Another resource is the one Diplo created
https://www.diplomacy.edu/conference-tech-lab
One thing they have is this Online survey which might be a good idea for us to replicate
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdjhWOxMuki0xJ24dBALHgft6DOKJze2eC3...
G
Glenn McKnight ICANN NOMCOM 2019-2021 mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> Curator for Internet Governance Hub Blog www.internetgovernancehub.blog <http://www.internetgovernancehub.blog> http://toronto.ieee.ca/ IEEE Toronto SIGHT Chair glenn.mcknight@ieee.org <mailto:glenn.mcknight@ieee.org> skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 .
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:07 AM Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
Hi Olivier It seems that icann did not want to pay more. I was in a zoom room Meeting that had close to 600 people. It was a lecture but the host allowed for people to comment. I ask Joly about the limits and he said even the cheaper pro accounts could have 500 or 1000 people if they paid extra for it. The group was not using webinar From that and looking at the prices is that icann did not want to pay for more than what was available in their plan
Best Judith
Sent from my iPhone Judith@jhellerstein.com <mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Skype ID:Judithhellerstein
On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:59 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
during the ICANN meeting we saw full Zoom meeting rooms limited at 300 people and Webinar rooms assumed to be higher than that perhaps thousands of people. Are the limits technical limits, or are they they imposed by the subscriptions that ICANN got? I note the pricing which appears to point out that more than 300 people are possible for a full Zoom room? https://zoom.us/pricing
Kindest regards,
Olivier _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
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