Re: [At-Large] Re: [External] Re: Re: Re: TheVerge : Microsoft is shutting down Skype in favor of Teams
Hi All I use Discord for two groups I belong too and we have good sub-group threads and we conduct Live Chats as well. Lots of experience with Loomio and Slack . Its not about the technology but rather about people using the tool for the purpose it's set out for. I have not been a fan of Skype with the lack of threads and other reasons. G Glenn McKnight, MA Virtual School of Internet Governance Chief Information Officer www.virtualsig.org *YOUR SOURCE FOR INTERNET GOVERNANCE EDUCATION * *Mobile 437-237-4655* On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 at 13:28, Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi via At-Large <at-large@icann.org> wrote:
I use Microsoft Teams, it is a very good tool. You can also co-edit documents directly in Teams.
Hadia
________________________________ From: Evan Leibovitch via At-Large <at-large@icann.org> Sent: 02 April 2025 19:21 To: Jonathan Zuck Cc: Technology Taskforce WG; At-Large Worldwide Subject: [External] [At-Large] Re: [technology taskforce] Re: Re: TheVerge : Microsoft is shutting down Skype in favor of Teams
On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 12:09?PM Jonathan Zuck via At-Large < at-large@icann.org<mailto:at-large@icann.org>> wrote:
I don't think there's a world in which volunteers should have to pay a license fee.
You're absolutely right.
Given that ICANN depends on volunteer communities throughout the organization, it would strike me as obvious that the org would cover the cost of whatever tools would be necessary to enable these communities to properly engage. Making communications pay-to-play defeats the core claimed benefits of multistakeholderism.
Being a nonprofit ICANN has access to substantial discounts on conferencing tools including Microsoft Teams, Google Meet and Zoom. I personally don't care which. Why such procurement is even an issue of any controversy or delay boggles the mind.
- Evan
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Actually it *is* about the technology, regarding both capabilities and price. The problem with Discord is its maximum video call limit of 25 people. Using Nitro can improve the call quality but does not increase the limit. Teams, Meet and Zoom all have substantially higher limits. Google Meet's free service allows 100, Microsoft's paid plans go to 300, and that's for full interactivity. In the case of webinars all three systems can handle thousands of view-only participants; I suppose Twitch might be usable here but uit's a stretch. Then there are other desirable features such as recording, transcription and realtime transcription translation that would be useful in an ICANN context but not available the same way on all platforms. Slack works well, but its per-participant licensing cost would be prohibitive to an org like ICANN. IIRC the comparison of communications system has been a main function of the technology task force. Perhaps someone from there can weigh in. - Evan On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 1:36 PM Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All I use Discord for two groups I belong too and we have good sub-group threads and we conduct Live Chats as well. Lots of experience with Loomio and Slack . Its not about the technology but rather about people using the tool for the purpose it's set out for. I have not been a fan of Skype with the lack of threads and other reasons.
Not that I am a big contributor here, but I like that Discord integrates into Beeper, which is handy aggregator. I don't use Teams at all, but i understand it has good translation and accessibility.features, but like all things MS, they deliver a pantechnicon when all one needs is runabout. J On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 1:55 PM Evan Leibovitch via At-Large < at-large@icann.org> wrote:
Actually it *is* about the technology, regarding both capabilities and price.
The problem with Discord is its maximum video call limit of 25 people. Using Nitro can improve the call quality but does not increase the limit. Teams, Meet and Zoom all have substantially higher limits. Google Meet's free service allows 100, Microsoft's paid plans go to 300, and that's for full interactivity. In the case of webinars all three systems can handle thousands of view-only participants; I suppose Twitch might be usable here but uit's a stretch. Then there are other desirable features such as recording, transcription and realtime transcription translation that would be useful in an ICANN context but not available the same way on all platforms.
Slack works well, but its per-participant licensing cost would be prohibitive to an org like ICANN.
IIRC the comparison of communications system has been a main function of the technology task force. Perhaps someone from there can weigh in.
- Evan
On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 1:36 PM Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All I use Discord for two groups I belong too and we have good sub-group threads and we conduct Live Chats as well. Lots of experience with Loomio and Slack . Its not about the technology but rather about people using the tool for the purpose it's set out for. I have not been a fan of Skype with the lack of threads and other reasons.
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