Ars Technica : Google is messing with the address bar again—new experiment hides URL path
"It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police <https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of " https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com." https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...
I have seen this on safari On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:49 AM Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
"It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police <https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of " https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com."
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...
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Another nail... Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org<http://www.InnovatorsNetwork.org> ________________________________ From: At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:48:06 PM To: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [At-Large] Ars Technica : Google is messing with the address bar again—new experiment hides URL path "It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police<https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of "https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com<http://arstechnica.com>." https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...
If we are supposed to be looking after end users, why aren’t we outraged that we can’t see the full URL - particularly since Google is most likely trying to hide how pervasive it is in everyone’s lives Holly
On Jun 16, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Another nail...
Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org <http://www.innovatorsnetwork.org/> From: At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:48:06 PM To: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [At-Large] Ars Technica : Google is messing with the address bar again—new experiment hides URL path
"It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police <https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of "https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b..., <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...>" the address bar would show "arstechnica.com <http://arstechnica.com/>."
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b... <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...>
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I think it would be a hard case to make that this is somehow bad for end users. What matters most to them is seeing that it’s a domain they trust and that can be quite obscured with a full URL. From: Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net> Date: Monday, June 15, 2020 at 9:52 PM To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> Cc: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Ars Technica : Google is messing with the address bar again—new experiment hides URL path If we are supposed to be looking after end users, why aren’t we outraged that we can’t see the full URL - particularly since Google is most likely trying to hide how pervasive it is in everyone’s lives Holly On Jun 16, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote: Another nail... Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org<http://www.innovatorsnetwork.org/> ________________________________ From: At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:48:06 PM To: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>; At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Subject: [At-Large] Ars Technica : Google is messing with the address bar again—new experiment hides URL path "It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police<https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of "https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com<http://arstechnica.com/>." https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b... _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
I haven’t actually chatted with the chrome dev team about this before, their goal is actually to increase user experience, quantitative user data shows most people have no idea what a URL is anymore beyond potentially I go to x.com, beyond the tld many users have little to no idea of the functionality of “the rest” Sent from my iPhone On 16 Jun 2020, at 07:47, Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote: If we are supposed to be looking after end users, why aren’t we outraged that we can’t see the full URL - particularly since Google is most likely trying to hide how pervasive it is in everyone’s lives Holly On Jun 16, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote: Another nail... Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org<http://www.innovatorsnetwork.org/> ________________________________ From: At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:48:06 PM To: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>; At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Subject: [At-Large] Ars Technica : Google is messing with the address bar again—new experiment hides URL path "It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police<https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of "https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com<http://arstechnica.com/>." https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b... _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
And ofc that was supposed to read I have chatted. Autocorrect before coffee. Sent from my iPhone On 16 Jun 2020, at 07:52, James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net> wrote: I haven’t actually chatted with the chrome dev team about this before, their goal is actually to increase user experience, quantitative user data shows most people have no idea what a URL is anymore beyond potentially I go to x.com, beyond the tld many users have little to no idea of the functionality of “the rest” Sent from my iPhone On 16 Jun 2020, at 07:47, Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote: If we are supposed to be looking after end users, why aren’t we outraged that we can’t see the full URL - particularly since Google is most likely trying to hide how pervasive it is in everyone’s lives Holly On Jun 16, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote: Another nail... Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org<http://www.innovatorsnetwork.org/> ________________________________ From: At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:48:06 PM To: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>; At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Subject: [At-Large] Ars Technica : Google is messing with the address bar again—new experiment hides URL path "It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police<https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of "https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com<http://arstechnica.com/>." https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b... _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
James One of the things that we are trying to engender among our end-users in our capacity-building activities is to raise their awareness of where they are getting information from and where they are landing when they want information. And checking before they click is an important rule. Just being given a short URL is defeating the whole point of our trying to encourage responsible user practice and behaviour. More of an issue for newer less experienced users in developing countries. Maureen On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 6:03 AM James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
I haven’t actually chatted with the chrome dev team about this before, their goal is actually to increase user experience, quantitative user data shows most people have no idea what a URL is anymore beyond potentially I go to x.com, beyond the tld many users have little to no idea of the functionality of “the rest”
Sent from my iPhone
On 16 Jun 2020, at 07:47, Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote:
If we are supposed to be looking after end users, why aren’t we outraged that we can’t see the full URL - particularly since Google is most likely trying to hide how pervasive it is in everyone’s lives
Holly
On Jun 16, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Another nail...
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"It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police <https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of " https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com."
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...
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Yup I understand, and if you spoke to the dev team they would actually say the same thing, their perspective is (Not saying I agree with it or not) that by cutting down the information to the core “important” elements in terms of a secured domain this is actually furthering that goal. This was the same UX driver behind them marking all non HTTPS domains as insecure. Its about providing the important information vs the technical information to end users. From: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, 16 June 2020 at 17:22 To: James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net> Cc: Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net>, Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] [technology taskforce] Ars Technica : Google is messing with the address bar again—new experiment hides URL path James One of the things that we are trying to engender among our end-users in our capacity-building activities is to raise their awareness of where they are getting information from and where they are landing when they want information. And checking before they click is an important rule. Just being given a short URL is defeating the whole point of our trying to encourage responsible user practice and behaviour. More of an issue for newer less experienced users in developing countries. Maureen On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 6:03 AM James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> wrote: I haven’t actually chatted with the chrome dev team about this before, their goal is actually to increase user experience, quantitative user data shows most people have no idea what a URL is anymore beyond potentially I go to x.com<http://x.com>, beyond the tld many users have little to no idea of the functionality of “the rest” Sent from my iPhone On 16 Jun 2020, at 07:47, Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>> wrote: If we are supposed to be looking after end users, why aren’t we outraged that we can’t see the full URL - particularly since Google is most likely trying to hide how pervasive it is in everyone’s lives Holly On Jun 16, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote: Another nail... Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org<http://www.innovatorsnetwork.org/> ________________________________ From: At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:48:06 PM To: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>; At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Subject: [At-Large] Ars Technica : Google is messing with the address bar again—new experiment hides URL path "It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police<https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of "https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com<http://arstechnica.com/>." https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b... _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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https://twitter.com/estark37/status/1272886878794944512 Some tweets and academic research linked on the topic from the chrome team From: James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net> Date: Tuesday, 16 June 2020 at 17:26 To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> Cc: Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net>, Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] [technology taskforce] Ars Technica : Google is messing with the address bar again—new experiment hides URL path Yup I understand, and if you spoke to the dev team they would actually say the same thing, their perspective is (Not saying I agree with it or not) that by cutting down the information to the core “important” elements in terms of a secured domain this is actually furthering that goal. This was the same UX driver behind them marking all non HTTPS domains as insecure. Its about providing the important information vs the technical information to end users. From: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, 16 June 2020 at 17:22 To: James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net> Cc: Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net>, Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] [technology taskforce] Ars Technica : Google is messing with the address bar again—new experiment hides URL path James One of the things that we are trying to engender among our end-users in our capacity-building activities is to raise their awareness of where they are getting information from and where they are landing when they want information. And checking before they click is an important rule. Just being given a short URL is defeating the whole point of our trying to encourage responsible user practice and behaviour. More of an issue for newer less experienced users in developing countries. Maureen On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 6:03 AM James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> wrote: I haven’t actually chatted with the chrome dev team about this before, their goal is actually to increase user experience, quantitative user data shows most people have no idea what a URL is anymore beyond potentially I go to x.com<http://x.com>, beyond the tld many users have little to no idea of the functionality of “the rest” Sent from my iPhone On 16 Jun 2020, at 07:47, Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>> wrote: If we are supposed to be looking after end users, why aren’t we outraged that we can’t see the full URL - particularly since Google is most likely trying to hide how pervasive it is in everyone’s lives Holly On Jun 16, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote: Another nail... Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org<http://www.innovatorsnetwork.org/> ________________________________ From: At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:48:06 PM To: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>; At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Subject: [At-Large] Ars Technica : Google is messing with the address bar again—new experiment hides URL path "It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police<https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. 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Google confirms experiment to remove full address from URL bar in Chrome, details opt-out mechanism https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/15/google-confirms-experiment-to-remov... On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 9:49 PM Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
"It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police <https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of " https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com."
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Well that doesn't sound too bad then.. and it is an experiment. On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:51 AM Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google < tracyhackshaw@gmail.com> wrote:
Google confirms experiment to remove full address from URL bar in Chrome, details opt-out mechanism
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/15/google-confirms-experiment-to-remov...
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"It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police <https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of " https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com."
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And... there is Firefox. And Chromium. Thankfully Chrome isn't the only game in town. Even other browsers that use the Chrome rendering engine (such as Microsoft Edge) don't need to take their UE cues from Google. I switched to Firefox ages ago because of a greater interest in not being tracked, something in which Google has a financial interest but the Mozilla Foundation does not. Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56 On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 15:56, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Well that doesn't sound too bad then.. and it is an experiment.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:51 AM Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google < tracyhackshaw@gmail.com> wrote:
Google confirms experiment to remove full address from URL bar in Chrome, details opt-out mechanism
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/15/google-confirms-experiment-to-remov...
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 9:49 PM Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
"It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police <https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of " https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com."
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...
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How is this linked with DoH (DNS over HTTP)? I mean, if an application is choosing to use a specific DNS server and the browser hides the real address, how do I know where I have *really* landed on? Or is it just my paranoiac half that makes me suspicious? Cheers, Roberto On 16.06.2020, at 22:02, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org<mailto:evan@telly.org>> wrote: And... there is Firefox. And Chromium. Thankfully Chrome isn't the only game in town. Even other browsers that use the Chrome rendering engine (such as Microsoft Edge) don't need to take their UE cues from Google. I switched to Firefox ages ago because of a greater interest in not being tracked, something in which Google has a financial interest but the Mozilla Foundation does not. Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56 On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 15:56, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> wrote: Well that doesn't sound too bad then.. and it is an experiment. On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:51 AM Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google <tracyhackshaw@gmail.com<mailto:tracyhackshaw@gmail.com>> wrote: Google confirms experiment to remove full address from URL bar in Chrome, details opt-out mechanism https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/15/google-confirms-experiment-to-remov... On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 9:49 PM Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com>> wrote: "It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police<https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of "https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com<http://arstechnica.com/>." https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b... _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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You and me both, Roberto. On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 10:17 AM Roberto Gaetano < roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com> wrote:
How is this linked with DoH (DNS over HTTP)? I mean, if an application is choosing to use a specific DNS server and the browser hides the real address, how do I know where I have *really* landed on? Or is it just my paranoiac half that makes me suspicious? Cheers, Roberto
On 16.06.2020, at 22:02, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
And... there is Firefox. And Chromium. Thankfully Chrome isn't the only game in town. Even other browsers that use the Chrome rendering engine (such as Microsoft Edge) don't need to take their UE cues from Google.
I switched to Firefox ages ago because of a greater interest in not being tracked, something in which Google has a financial interest but the Mozilla Foundation does not.
Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 15:56, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Well that doesn't sound too bad then.. and it is an experiment.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:51 AM Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google < tracyhackshaw@gmail.com> wrote:
Google confirms experiment to remove full address from URL bar in Chrome, details opt-out mechanism
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/15/google-confirms-experiment-to-remov...
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 9:49 PM Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
"It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police <https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of " https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com."
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...
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Clearly, something for a TTF piece of work, webinar - and maybe the next policy session for the ‘Hamburg’ meeting? Holly
On Jun 17, 2020, at 6:28 AM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
You and me both, Roberto.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 10:17 AM Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com <mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com>> wrote: How is this linked with DoH (DNS over HTTP)? I mean, if an application is choosing to use a specific DNS server and the browser hides the real address, how do I know where I have *really* landed on? Or is it just my paranoiac half that makes me suspicious? Cheers, Roberto
On 16.06.2020, at 22:02, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org <mailto:evan@telly.org>> wrote:
And... there is Firefox. And Chromium. Thankfully Chrome isn't the only game in town. Even other browsers that use the Chrome rendering engine (such as Microsoft Edge) don't need to take their UE cues from Google.
I switched to Firefox ages ago because of a greater interest in not being tracked, something in which Google has a financial interest but the Mozilla Foundation does not.
Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 15:56, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com <mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> wrote: Well that doesn't sound too bad then.. and it is an experiment.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:51 AM Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google <tracyhackshaw@gmail.com <mailto:tracyhackshaw@gmail.com>> wrote: Google confirms experiment to remove full address from URL bar in Chrome, details opt-out mechanism
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/15/google-confirms-experiment-to-remov... <https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/15/google-confirms-experiment-to-remov...> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 9:49 PM Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com <mailto:devtee@gmail.com>> wrote: "It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police <https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of "https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b..., <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...>" the address bar would show "arstechnica.com <http://arstechnica.com/>."
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b... <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...>
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We've been asked to start thinking about ICANN69 now. I'll get Gisella to set up a wiki space so we can start getting ideas down, On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:49 AM Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote:
Clearly, something for a TTF piece of work, webinar - and maybe the next policy session for the ‘Hamburg’ meeting?
Holly
On Jun 17, 2020, at 6:28 AM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
You and me both, Roberto.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 10:17 AM Roberto Gaetano < roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com> wrote:
How is this linked with DoH (DNS over HTTP)? I mean, if an application is choosing to use a specific DNS server and the browser hides the real address, how do I know where I have *really* landed on? Or is it just my paranoiac half that makes me suspicious? Cheers, Roberto
On 16.06.2020, at 22:02, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
And... there is Firefox. And Chromium. Thankfully Chrome isn't the only game in town. Even other browsers that use the Chrome rendering engine (such as Microsoft Edge) don't need to take their UE cues from Google.
I switched to Firefox ages ago because of a greater interest in not being tracked, something in which Google has a financial interest but the Mozilla Foundation does not.
Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 15:56, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Well that doesn't sound too bad then.. and it is an experiment.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:51 AM Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google < tracyhackshaw@gmail.com> wrote:
Google confirms experiment to remove full address from URL bar in Chrome, details opt-out mechanism
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/15/google-confirms-experiment-to-remov...
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 9:49 PM Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
"It looks like Google is trying to mess with the URL bar again. As spotted by Android Police <https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/12/google-resumes-its-senseless-attack...>, new flags in the developer versions of the popular browser now want to hide the URL path. So for an article like this one, instead of " https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...," the address bar would show "arstechnica.com."
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/google-is-messing-with-the-address-b...
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