Summary of TTF call on August 12 2013 to test BlueJeans conferencing solution
The technology task force working group had a conference call on Monday 12 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC to test the BlueJeans conferencing solution. TTF Persons on the call : Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Glenn Mcknight, Yaovi Athooun, Gordon Chillcot, Bill Thanis
From Staff: Gisella Gruber
Some of the notes/points from the meeting - DAT, GM, YA and GG had webcams and connected with video and audio in their browser. YA had problems with Firefox, but got it working in Internet Explorer ; but GC and BT had to use the audio only as they couldn't get video working. GC mentioned no Linux support and there is no Android browser support. (apparently the workaround for Android according to http://bluejeans.com/mobile was to use third party apps like Skype, Google chat) - As persons talked, the focus switched automatically to the speaker talking so others can see who is talking. - No group text chat. - No speaker's queue. No way to raise hands other than raising a hand in camera or by speaking up for those on audio. - There is no pod/window to show an agenda or to show a document, presentation, etc, unless someone shares their desktop. GC shared his screen (Windows desktop) and it worked although there was a lag, indication that the persons sharing and being in the conference at the same time would require a lot of bandwidth. - Although the novelty of seeing each other was nice, there were audio issues (mostly echo, and at times garbled audio). This implies that there would be a lot of end user issue troubleshooting based on end users' equipment and bandwidth. - No way to record the call. - Given the ability of BlueJeans to focus on the active speaker when talking, using the Adigo bridge and disabling audio for the BlueJeans connection would be counter-intutive and would then require someone to manually put the focus on a video speaker. There would also be a lot of echo for persons on BlueJeans and the Adigo bridge at the same time which would be disruptive, especially if they join mid call. - Having the Adigo bridge to carry out interpretation would be impractical. - Moderators can mute audio and hide video of participants and disconnect them from the call, if needed. - While this may be good for a few persons wanting to see and talk to each other, it would be difficult to see how this would scale with more users, especially without a speakers queue. BlueJeans supports up to 25 persons. Meeting concluded at 15:42 UTC - Not tested, but BlueJeans offers video sharing where a video could be shown to participants for others to see. See http://bluejeans.com/video-sharing A BlueJeans representative called me directly after the call said text chat and ability to record meetings are features to be implemented possibly by year end. Other TTF members on this call, do add (or correct!) any of the observations noted. Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh
Dear all, My apologies for missing the call yesterday. We had connectivity issues for most of the day. Best regards Lance Lance Hinds Chief Executive The BrainStreet Group www.brainstreetgroup.com Sent from meh iPad eh.... On Aug 13, 2013, at 1:34 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
The technology task force working group had a conference call on Monday 12 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC to test the BlueJeans conferencing solution.
TTF Persons on the call : Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Glenn Mcknight, Yaovi Athooun, Gordon Chillcot, Bill Thanis From Staff: Gisella Gruber
Some of the notes/points from the meeting
- DAT, GM, YA and GG had webcams and connected with video and audio in their browser. YA had problems with Firefox, but got it working in Internet Explorer ; but GC and BT had to use the audio only as they couldn't get video working. GC mentioned no Linux support and there is no Android browser support. (apparently the workaround for Android according to http://bluejeans.com/mobile was to use third party apps like Skype, Google chat) - As persons talked, the focus switched automatically to the speaker talking so others can see who is talking. - No group text chat. - No speaker's queue. No way to raise hands other than raising a hand in camera or by speaking up for those on audio. - There is no pod/window to show an agenda or to show a document, presentation, etc, unless someone shares their desktop. GC shared his screen (Windows desktop) and it worked although there was a lag, indication that the persons sharing and being in the conference at the same time would require a lot of bandwidth. - Although the novelty of seeing each other was nice, there were audio issues (mostly echo, and at times garbled audio). This implies that there would be a lot of end user issue troubleshooting based on end users' equipment and bandwidth. - No way to record the call. - Given the ability of BlueJeans to focus on the active speaker when talking, using the Adigo bridge and disabling audio for the BlueJeans connection would be counter-intutive and would then require someone to manually put the focus on a video speaker. There would also be a lot of echo for persons on BlueJeans and the Adigo bridge at the same time which would be disruptive, especially if they join mid call. - Having the Adigo bridge to carry out interpretation would be impractical. - Moderators can mute audio and hide video of participants and disconnect them from the call, if needed. - While this may be good for a few persons wanting to see and talk to each other, it would be difficult to see how this would scale with more users, especially without a speakers queue. BlueJeans supports up to 25 persons.
Meeting concluded at 15:42 UTC
- Not tested, but BlueJeans offers video sharing where a video could be shown to participants for others to see. See http://bluejeans.com/video-sharing
A BlueJeans representative called me directly after the call said text chat and ability to record meetings are features to be implemented possibly by year end.
Other TTF members on this call, do add (or correct!) any of the observations noted.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
Hi All This was the second attempt to use the BLUEJEAN product and as the first time it didn't satisify my inner child. I can see it as a great tool for multiple users to have a face to face. Nothing else On to the next. Glenn Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight . On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com>wrote:
The technology task force working group had a conference call on Monday 12 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC to test the BlueJeans conferencing solution.
TTF Persons on the call : Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Glenn Mcknight, Yaovi Athooun, Gordon Chillcot, Bill Thanis From Staff: Gisella Gruber
Some of the notes/points from the meeting
- DAT, GM, YA and GG had webcams and connected with video and audio in their browser. YA had problems with Firefox, but got it working in Internet Explorer ; but GC and BT had to use the audio only as they couldn't get video working. GC mentioned no Linux support and there is no Android browser support. (apparently the workaround for Android according to http://bluejeans.com/mobile was to use third party apps like Skype, Google chat) - As persons talked, the focus switched automatically to the speaker talking so others can see who is talking. - No group text chat. - No speaker's queue. No way to raise hands other than raising a hand in camera or by speaking up for those on audio. - There is no pod/window to show an agenda or to show a document, presentation, etc, unless someone shares their desktop. GC shared his screen (Windows desktop) and it worked although there was a lag, indication that the persons sharing and being in the conference at the same time would require a lot of bandwidth. - Although the novelty of seeing each other was nice, there were audio issues (mostly echo, and at times garbled audio). This implies that there would be a lot of end user issue troubleshooting based on end users' equipment and bandwidth. - No way to record the call. - Given the ability of BlueJeans to focus on the active speaker when talking, using the Adigo bridge and disabling audio for the BlueJeans connection would be counter-intutive and would then require someone to manually put the focus on a video speaker. There would also be a lot of echo for persons on BlueJeans and the Adigo bridge at the same time which would be disruptive, especially if they join mid call. - Having the Adigo bridge to carry out interpretation would be impractical. - Moderators can mute audio and hide video of participants and disconnect them from the call, if needed. - While this may be good for a few persons wanting to see and talk to each other, it would be difficult to see how this would scale with more users, especially without a speakers queue. BlueJeans supports up to 25 persons.
Meeting concluded at 15:42 UTC
- Not tested, but BlueJeans offers video sharing where a video could be shown to participants for others to see. See http://bluejeans.com/video-sharing
A BlueJeans representative called me directly after the call said text chat and ability to record meetings are features to be implemented possibly by year end.
Other TTF members on this call, do add (or correct!) any of the observations noted.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
Dear Dev, thank you very much for this comprehensive and excellent review. Will this be collated, along with all other product reviews, on a WIKI page that we can all access easily to look/compare? Perhaps also in a master table showing all products & a tick depending on what feature they have? Kind regards, Olivier On 12/08/2013 22:34, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
The technology task force working group had a conference call on Monday 12 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC to test the BlueJeans conferencing solution.
TTF Persons on the call : Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Glenn Mcknight, Yaovi Athooun, Gordon Chillcot, Bill Thanis
From Staff: Gisella Gruber
Some of the notes/points from the meeting
- DAT, GM, YA and GG had webcams and connected with video and audio in their browser. YA had problems with Firefox, but got it working in Internet Explorer ; but GC and BT had to use the audio only as they couldn't get video working. GC mentioned no Linux support and there is no Android browser support. (apparently the workaround for Android according to http://bluejeans.com/mobile was to use third party apps like Skype, Google chat) - As persons talked, the focus switched automatically to the speaker talking so others can see who is talking. - No group text chat. - No speaker's queue. No way to raise hands other than raising a hand in camera or by speaking up for those on audio. - There is no pod/window to show an agenda or to show a document, presentation, etc, unless someone shares their desktop. GC shared his screen (Windows desktop) and it worked although there was a lag, indication that the persons sharing and being in the conference at the same time would require a lot of bandwidth. - Although the novelty of seeing each other was nice, there were audio issues (mostly echo, and at times garbled audio). This implies that there would be a lot of end user issue troubleshooting based on end users' equipment and bandwidth. - No way to record the call. - Given the ability of BlueJeans to focus on the active speaker when talking, using the Adigo bridge and disabling audio for the BlueJeans connection would be counter-intutive and would then require someone to manually put the focus on a video speaker. There would also be a lot of echo for persons on BlueJeans and the Adigo bridge at the same time which would be disruptive, especially if they join mid call. - Having the Adigo bridge to carry out interpretation would be impractical. - Moderators can mute audio and hide video of participants and disconnect them from the call, if needed. - While this may be good for a few persons wanting to see and talk to each other, it would be difficult to see how this would scale with more users, especially without a speakers queue. BlueJeans supports up to 25 persons.
Meeting concluded at 15:42 UTC
- Not tested, but BlueJeans offers video sharing where a video could be shown to participants for others to see. See http://bluejeans.com/video-sharing
A BlueJeans representative called me directly after the call said text chat and ability to record meetings are features to be implemented possibly by year end.
Other TTF members on this call, do add (or correct!) any of the observations noted.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
-- Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
Dear Olivier, Indeed a summary can be put on the wiki. A proposed master table of web conferencing features is up at https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Comparison+of+webconferencing+so... and open to suggestions as to other features that should be included, removed or modified by the next TTF call by August 19, 2013 Kind Regards, Dev Anand On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Dev,
thank you very much for this comprehensive and excellent review. Will this be collated, along with all other product reviews, on a WIKI page that we can all access easily to look/compare? Perhaps also in a master table showing all products & a tick depending on what feature they have? Kind regards,
Olivier
On 12/08/2013 22:34, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
The technology task force working group had a conference call on Monday 12 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC to test the BlueJeans conferencing solution.
TTF Persons on the call : Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Glenn Mcknight, Yaovi Athooun, Gordon Chillcot, Bill Thanis
From Staff: Gisella Gruber
Some of the notes/points from the meeting
- DAT, GM, YA and GG had webcams and connected with video and audio in their browser. YA had problems with Firefox, but got it working in Internet Explorer ; but GC and BT had to use the audio only as they couldn't get video working. GC mentioned no Linux support and there is no Android browser support. (apparently the workaround for Android according to http://bluejeans.com/mobile was to use third party apps like Skype, Google chat) - As persons talked, the focus switched automatically to the speaker talking so others can see who is talking. - No group text chat. - No speaker's queue. No way to raise hands other than raising a hand in camera or by speaking up for those on audio. - There is no pod/window to show an agenda or to show a document, presentation, etc, unless someone shares their desktop. GC shared his screen (Windows desktop) and it worked although there was a lag, indication that the persons sharing and being in the conference at the same time would require a lot of bandwidth. - Although the novelty of seeing each other was nice, there were audio issues (mostly echo, and at times garbled audio). This implies that there would be a lot of end user issue troubleshooting based on end users' equipment and bandwidth. - No way to record the call. - Given the ability of BlueJeans to focus on the active speaker when talking, using the Adigo bridge and disabling audio for the BlueJeans connection would be counter-intutive and would then require someone to manually put the focus on a video speaker. There would also be a lot of echo for persons on BlueJeans and the Adigo bridge at the same time which would be disruptive, especially if they join mid call. - Having the Adigo bridge to carry out interpretation would be impractical. - Moderators can mute audio and hide video of participants and disconnect them from the call, if needed. - While this may be good for a few persons wanting to see and talk to each other, it would be difficult to see how this would scale with more users, especially without a speakers queue. BlueJeans supports up to 25 persons.
Meeting concluded at 15:42 UTC
- Not tested, but BlueJeans offers video sharing where a video could be shown to participants for others to see. See http://bluejeans.com/video-sharing
A BlueJeans representative called me directly after the call said text chat and ability to record meetings are features to be implemented possibly by year end.
Other TTF members on this call, do add (or correct!) any of the observations noted.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <javascript:;> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
-- Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
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Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond