Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] Announcement - LACRALO Secretariat elect- election 2023
[[-- Sorry, this message could not be translated. --]] Hi, for once I am going to agree with Carlton, with a more fundamental reason. We have not found out for a long time who of the members of LACRALO actually and presently still represent the organizations with which they were recognized as ALS. It is likely that many have lapsed and if we, say, asked a university or an association about there representative they would hardly even know that LACRALO or ICANN even exist. They would be hard pressed to send ICANN a letter signed by a competent, high-level authority ratifiying this designation; they may also find the request a good opportunity to replace their representative. Some others are still valid but may have not made consultations with their membership or leaders previous to their participations and votes. So yes, making public who voted what is a step towards keeping members who in principle are representatives of organizations accoountable to their own authorities and membership, even if they could have been granted differing levels of freedom to make decisions like this one. A member or an employee may well ask the higher-ups if they agree with the vote and whether they still consider themselves represented by the person voting; or they may want to instill some process for making such decisions in their names in the next round, and for votes in matter other than electing representatives if, and when in the distant future, the "policy-first" agenda agreed some 8 years ago actually kicks in. That, by the way, should be the elected representatives and officialas main, if not only, preoccupation, so that everything else such as outreach, participation, access to resources, and travel, derive from how well the proposed activity will serve influential policy development. Yours, Alejandro Pisanty ________________________________ De: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> Enviado: sábado, 27 de mayo de 2023 11:56 a. m. Para: Staff @ AtLarge CC: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Announcement - LACRALO Secretariat elect- election 2023 Dear Staff: A secret ballot is a change in the procedure for LACRALO. There cannot be a secret vote in LACRALO. The central idea is for decision by consensus. And every other thing follows from this principle. A vote event is considered a general assembly. In a face-to-face assembly, the entire membership will see who is nominated and who votes. It is also the right of every member to directly audit any vote. This is especially significant in a process with weighted votes. So with respect, LACLARO may not have a secret ballot or vote. Best, Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround ============================= On Fri, 26 May 2023 at 17:01, Staff @ AtLarge <staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>> wrote: EN: Dear all, The Secretary Elect vote 2023 has closed. The results of the vote are quorate, having participated in the vote more than 50% of LACRALO ALS (46 ALS). On behalf of Augusto Ho, LACRALO's Chair and Claire Craig, LACRALO Secretariat, we are pleased to announce the following candidate has been elected by vote in 2023: Sandra Rodriguez , LACRALO Secretariat Elect (Term: AGM 2023 - AGM 2025; designated by elections ) 2023 LACRALO Secretariat Elect - Results Election Options Sum of weighted votes % of weighted Votes number of voters % of voters 1 Sandra Rodriguez 46.012 68.82% 33 71.74% 2 Jan Alvarado 21.164 30.28% 10 21.74% 3 Abstain 2.727 3.90% 3 6.52% To access the poll data see : https://tally.icann.org/cgi/results?e=be9dd5eafc3 [tally.icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tally.icann.org/cgi/results?e=be9dd5eafc3...> Participants in LACRALO Elections ALS 2023 : LACRALO Voting weights 2023 /LACRALO Voto ponderado 2023<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=240617564> Explanation: In these votes, electorates can only choose one candidate, or to abstain. The vote electorate is anonymous. All results have been posted on the wiki page 2023 LACRALO Regional Selections<https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2023+LACRALO+Regional+Selections> At-Large staff would like to congratulate Sandra Rodriguez ! 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Hello you all! Since Carlton and Alejandro agree on an important issue, I don't want to miss the opportunity to add my 2 cents.😘
From our perspective as ISOC CR chapter I have to recognize that the ISOC.org has done a great job chasing and threatening our chapter to have the transparency required to represent the interest of local internet users. In the process we have not only elected a new leadership team, but have also integrated directly in the leadership team another important local group (Such Batsu) in our chapter and look forward to a great collaboration next week in @rightscon together with ISOC.or, Sula Batsu and hopefully many ICANN friends. The result of this process can be seen in the attachment, as the last election was duly registered in the Costa Rican Registro Nacional on May 15, 2023 for a 2 year period. So it is possible to give a credible proof of our status and we should put the cards on the table instead of prolonging the discussion.
From my perspective, thanks ISOC for pushing us to feel as legitimate ALS in ICANN.
Best to all Carlos Raul On 2023-05-27T22:38:35.000+02:00, <apisan@unam.mx> wrote:
[[-- Sorry, this message could not be translated. --]] Hi, for once I am going to agree with Carlton, with a more fundamental reason. We have not found out for a long time who of the members of LACRALO actually and presently still represent the organizations with which they were recognized as ALS. It is likely that many have lapsed and if we, say, asked a university or an association about there representative they would hardly even know that LACRALO or ICANN even exist. They would be hard pressed to send ICANN a letter signed by a competent, high-level authority ratifiying this designation; they may also find the request a good opportunity to replace their representative. Some others are still valid but may have not made consultations with their membership or leaders previous to their participations and votes. So yes, making public who voted what is a step towards keeping members who in principle are representatives of organizations accoountable to their own authorities and membership, even if they could have been granted differing levels of freedom to make decisions like this one. A member or an employee may well ask the higher-ups if they agree with the vote and whether they still consider themselves represented by the person voting; or they may want to instill some process for making such decisions in their names in the next round, and for votes in matter other than electing representatives if, and when in the distant future, the "policy-first" agenda agreed some 8 years ago actually kicks in. That, by the way, should be the elected representatives and officialas main, if not only, preoccupation, so that everything else such as outreach, participation, access to resources, and travel, derive from how well the proposed activity will serve influential policy development. Yours, Alejandro Pisanty ________________________________ De: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> Enviado: sábado, 27 de mayo de 2023 11:56 a. m. Para: Staff @ AtLarge CC: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Announcement - LACRALO Secretariat elect- election 2023 Dear Staff: A secret ballot is a change in the procedure for LACRALO. There cannot be a secret vote in LACRALO. The central idea is for decision by consensus. And every other thing follows from this principle. A vote event is considered a general assembly. In a face-to-face assembly, the entire membership will see who is nominated and who votes. It is also the right of every member to directly audit any vote. This is especially significant in a process with weighted votes. So with respect, LACLARO may not have a secret ballot or vote. Best, Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround ============================= On Fri, 26 May 2023 at 17:01, Staff @ AtLarge <staff@atlarge.icann.org<staff@atlarge.icann.org>> wrote: EN: Dear all, The Secretary Elect vote 2023 has closed. The results of the vote are quorate, having participated in the vote more than 50% of LACRALO ALS (46 ALS). On behalf of Augusto Ho, LACRALO's Chair and Claire Craig, LACRALO Secretariat, we are pleased to announce the following candidate has been elected by vote in 2023: Sandra Rodriguez , LACRALO Secretariat Elect (Term: AGM 2023 - AGM 2025; designated by elections ) 2023 LACRALO Secretariat Elect - Results Election Options Sum of weighted votes % of weighted Votes number of voters % of voters 1 Sandra Rodriguez 46.012 68.82% 33 71.74% 2 Jan Alvarado 21.164 30.28% 10 21.74% 3 Abstain 2.727 3.90% 3 6.52% To access the poll data see : https://tally.icann.org/cgi/results?e=be9dd5eafc3 [tally.icann.org [http://tally.icann.org]]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tally.icann.org/cgi/results?e=be9dd5eafc3__;!!PtGJab4!9UWSCmduT98Jd4jGFmEnFB0-qzaV3ARaEzVbpcGff6TRoLgkGsNnUDs7O1PWICBnQjp0_hCjgx64oncmvt4p5pjPul7_rtWRhLimBw$>; Participants in LACRALO Elections ALS 2023 : LACRALO Voting weights 2023 /LACRALO Voto ponderado 2023<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=240617564>; Explanation: In these votes, electorates can only choose one candidate, or to abstain. 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