Dear Alexander. I have not problem with anybody. I`m a peace man. My last email only was a tale, product of my prolific imagination. And I wanted to share with the LAC region. If somebody it feel affected, sincerely sorry. I have not any problem to discuss about anything, in any place and in any moment. I am open to discuss about the At Large Director, when LACRALO decide opportune. Finally my response nothing have to do with your threat, because I do not accept any threat of anybody. I have a deeply respect for you and I ask the same for me. Best regards. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre ALAC member by LACRALO - ICANN Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:27:20 +0000 From: apisan@servidor.unam.mx To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: staff@atlarge.icann.org; lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?votaci=F3n_de_los_candidatos_a_la = =?iso-8859-1?q?_tarjeta_de_ICANN = [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?votaci=F3n_de_los_candidatos_a_la = =?iso-8859-1?q?_tarjeta_de_ICANN = From: apisan@servidor.unam.mx Sergio, Carlos, there are certain disputes that, independently how deep motivations they move them, they can seem too local and personal to the rest of members of this group. The only useful information that they transmit is that the divisions are very deep and possibly irreconciliables differences (badly a departure point). So yes, if somebody thinks that there is to discuss candidates and to deal with to give to a mandate or a direction to those who is going to vote, is losing time of all when not beginning to express its opinions reasoned on they. For that reason the conmino to you and now also to Carlos Aguirre to do it or to explain why no, so that we pruned to make a decision. Warm greetings. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Presidency Internaut wrote:

Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 08:46:38 -0300 > From: Presidency Internaut <presidencia@internauta.org.ar> > To: Alexander Pisanty <apisan@servidor.unam.mx> > Cc: cveraq@gmail.com, "staff@atlarge.icann.org" <staff@atlarge.icann.org>, > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ ISO-8859-1 ] voting of thecandidates to > ICANN card > > > Disculpame Alexander, but me was laughing with a mail of science fiction > just arrived at my tray of entrance, these asking to me as of > candidates I prefer? > > Sergio Saline I carry > President > Argentina Internaut > Argentina Association de Usuarios de Internet > to http://internauta.org.ar > to presidencia@internauta.org.ar > skype:internautaargentina > talk:salinasporto@gmail.com > MSN:salinasporto@hotmail.com > TeL:+54 9 223 (15) 5 215819 > the 21/11/2010 11:00 p.m., Alexander Pisanty wrote: > > Sergio, > > > > and your reasoned proposal of candidate by who to vote > > says __________________! _? > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >. > > > > > > On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, Presidency Internaut wrote: > > > > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:40:40 -0300 > > > From: Presidency Internaut <presidencia@internauta.org.ar> > > > To: cveraq@gmail.com > > > Cc: "st! aff@atlarge.icann.org" <staff@atlarge.icann.org>, > > > ! lac-disc uss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] voting ofthe candidates to > > > ICANN card > > > > > > Very good dear point Carlos (Side)! it wanted to deepen the debate > > > on the opinion spilled by our representative Carlos (Aguirre). > > > > > > I am convincing that any democracy is not advisable to propose > > > as it forms and way of institutional life "the Aristocracy" (Where > > > to be able sovereign is in a number reduced of people towhich them > > > attributes to be described so much to govern as to choose a > > > the governors). > > > > > > Nevertheless, I must recognize that I include/understandexactly what says C > > > Aguirre, but I absolutely do not share its solution to the problem in which > > > we are immersed in the region, we cannot continue thinking that like anybody > > > I inquire nobody must right to participate to ! think or to give instructions > > > precise to its representatives. There is no better formto feel alive > > > germ of the participation that when we were mistaken, so that that single one > > > occurs when we are in movement. > > > > > > "... Or we created or we were mistaken..." said to Simón Rodriguez, the teacher of > > > liberating of America Simon Bolivar, whichever reason had, I believe that ademas > > > to see the curricula of the candidates we would have togive instructions him > > > precise to each one of the representatives of our region with being able of > > > vote, so that they express what most of the ALS we define, is by > > > that that seems to me very good idea in addition to onepractices healthy of > > > internal democracy, the proposal of Sylvia of which once > > > we have the time sufficient to interiorizar to us of the aptitudes > > > of each one of the candidates we qualif! y the Doodle so that ours > > > representing can express! their i n agreement vote the mandate emitted by > > > this region > > > warm Greetings > > > > > > <b>Sergio Saline I carry > > > President > > > Argentina Internaut > > > Argentina Association de Usuarios de Internet > > > to http://internauta.org.ar > > > to presidencia@internauta.org.ar > > > skype:internautaargentina > > > talk:salinasporto@gmail.com > > > MSN:salinasporto@hotmail.com > > > TeL:+54 9 223 (15) 5 215819</b> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 21/11/2010 07:45 p.m., cveraq@gmail.com wrote: > > > > This single argument creates I circulate vicious visible... then q not > > > > promotes the participation so that there has been no participation so that no > > > > promotes the participation.... It takes to less results than those than > > > > in a while threw to promote q all participate. > > > > > &! gt; > > equal respect I believe Yet that there is to take the idea from Sylvia and to expose > > > > the strongpoints of the candidates to discuss on the matter and to propose > > > > ideas on the best option and ojala in consensusbetween votes them but it is > > > > possible in the list! > > > > > > > > Carlos Side > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message sent from my terminal BlackBerry® de Porta > > > > > > > > -----Original Message > > > > From: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > > > > Sender: lac-discuss-it is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:42:16 > > > > To:<lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > > Reply-To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Cc: staff@atlarge.icann.org<staff@atlarge.icann.org>; > > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org<l! ac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > > subjec! t:Re: vo ting of the candidates to the ICANN card > > > > > > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: voting of the candidates to the ICANN card > > > > Of: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > Discrepo respectfully. > > > > > > > > and due to the participatión of the deficiencyor nul of mayority of ALSs > > > > in the four last years. > > > > In that sensé which is the capacity analize participatíon of > > > > candidates in each of its last activities like members of ALAC? > > > > is looked like me at least pretentióus to think that. > > > > > > > > Convengo with the general concept exposed by Sylvia, but when this one > > > > esfollów by knowledge and participatíon. > > > > > > > > the majority in the region never has heárd on Sebastian, Alan or ! > > > Pierre. > > > > > > > > Ón this stage is impposible that somebody could decide or choose > > > > responsably. > > > > > > > > First and before char it or decides is needed participatíon previous > > > > and the contract and mayority sufficient of lacralo ALSs does not have. > > > > > > > > My two cents > > > > > > > > Carlos Ã�guirre > > > > > > > > Zarzamora of the wireless one of the device of the mile of from of > > > > Sent® > > > > > > > > Original Message > > > > Of: cveraq@gmail.com > > > > Date: Seated, The 20 Of Nov 2010 Of 18:23:35 > > > >:<lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > > Centimeter > > > > cubical:<staff@atlarge.icann.org>;<lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > > Subject: Re: [ lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in ] voting by c! andidates a > > > > the ICANN card > > > > ! > > > [ [ - - translated text (is ->)--]] of in > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: voting of the candidates to the ICANN card > > > > Of: cveraq@gmail.com > > > > > > > > is looked like very opportune and reasonable meits supply. > > > > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > > > Expensive De Carlos > > > > > > > > the 19 of November of 2010 14:57,<sylvia@internautabrasil.org> él > > > > escribió: > > considered to members of Lacralo: > of Monday 22 to > > > > 25 of November is período of votación to choose > the candidate > > > > that ocuparà chair 15 of the advice (card) ofIcann. > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/DirCan/At-Large+Director+Candidate-Commu...; > > > > nity+Forum+-+11.10<https://community.icann.org/display/DirCan/At-Large+Director+Candidate-Commu... ity+Forum+-+11.10> > > > > > > the members LACRALO that tendrà n that to vote is > > > > representing (leite of Carlos > of Aguirre, Carlton Samuels, of > > > > Sylvia Herlein) and president (Andres > Seat). > of my INTERNAUT of > > > > organizacion, always creimos that the representatives > tendrían that > > > > to act by the mandate  we have spoken It with severalorganizations of > > > > > usuary of región (the members of FLUI, WWW, fuilatin.org) and > > > > también > thinks about the same form > is porqué I am writing a > > > > li! > > > > sta to ask for that habra one > votación commits of región, > > > > so that their members can all (ALSs) > express their preference > > > > of some of the 3 candidates >! > > > > Sugiero orders doodle, initiating Sunday until 20 Tuesdays > 22, > > &! gt; > asídando the time sufficient to analyze the result! s and &g t; > > > > representación of LACRALO can vote según immediately©Ãƒ l >, and > > > > in búsqueda of participación of all, volume > > > > >_________________________________________________________ of > > > > license > of sylvia > Sylvia Herlein Leite > secretary FLUI - > > > > www.fuilatin.org<http://www.fuilatin.org> > the member of > > > > LACRALO-ALAC > Latin©rich Amà andOrganizaciónEn-Grande of the Caribbean > > > > regional > > > > > sylvia@internautabrasil.org >>>>>>>_______________________________________________> > > > > lacquer-to discuss està sending the list > > > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > ____________________________! ___________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ [ - - original text (it is) > > > > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/2cd44b4f44.html > > > > --]] > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > list that envía lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > > > > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-in > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > > > > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ba'01â374.html > > > > --]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > lac-dis! cuss-is mailing list > > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-l! ists.ica nn.org > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > -- > <b>Sergio Saline I carry > President > Argentina Internaut > Argentina Association de Usuarios de Internet > to http://internauta.org.ar > to presidencia@internauta.org.ar > skype:internautaargentina > talk:salinasporto@gmail.com > MSN:salinasporto@hotmail.com > TeL:+54 9 223 (15) 5 215819</b> > >

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