[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: RES: OP De: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com En particular, no es mi idea. Pero estoy de acuerdo contigo en que algunas personas están en este camino. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA Consejo de la GNSO - ICANN el ex miembro de ALAC por LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Córdoba - Argentina - * 54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org De: rok@bango.org.bb Para: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: OP Fecha: Martes, 14 de agosto 2012 21:07:17 -0400 Sé que mi comentario no ayuda porque ustedes están decididos a hacer fracasar LACRALO. Corea del Sur De: Carlos Aguirre Dionisio Enviado el: Martes, 14 de agosto 2012 20:53 Para: rok@bango.org.bb; carlton Samuels Cc: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: OP Corea del Sur: ¿Podría ser, pero tu comentario no ayuda. Saludos. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA Consejo de la GNSO - ICANN el ex miembro de ALAC por LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Córdoba - Argentina - * 54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org

From: rok@bango.org.bb To: CC: Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:47:08 -0400

Some

was established. It was not a club or political party. It was started the specific objective of getting inputs from Caribbean and Latin internet users, not for us to go off on some jolly

It seems that there are some who would want to hijack what they want to be. When that day comes and to ICANN, I would hope that the Caribbean petition ICANN to make direct inputs to their merry journey to

LACRALO has lost focus and has gone into a steep voting for officers is the prize... and if their lives depend on

Depressing!

ROK

From: carlos dionisio aguirre Sent: To: carlton samuels Cc: Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en]

My Dear Bro: On this opportunity I can`t share position LACRALO is: independent and soverign. (wrong,for me ) interpretation, LACRALO can give the same, so it shows it completely anybody. This sentence is clear: ("MOU")defines an agreement between Internet Corporation for Assigned establish, and define activities to Caribbean Regional At-Large ICANN is another reason we have a kind of ICANN is based on the California Law, thats true, relationship with LACRALO, if LACRALO adopt legal body (CAlifornia law). if not, MoU remains alive in force.

wich is one delegate by each organization. This is the explanation of "Signing Organizations" sentence. Now LACRALO is supported the future, and the most The idea from the begining was to have an region composed by End Users, that was part of ICANN, wich could be the ICANN and the multistackeholder model no need uniformity. diverse & democratic ecosystem ICANN need differents groups of opinion. LACRALO is one of them, organizations by LAC region. ICANN need a LACRALO My personal opinion on that.

NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -

http://ar.ageiadensi.org

From: carlton.samuels@gmail.com Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:41:48

Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: OP To: CC:

2012/8/10

:rule that you mention doesnt apply in this case, because we have a specific rule. Ón the othe side LACRALO is not part of ICÁNN we only

MOU signed, but we are independent of ICÁNN rules.

Regards

My brother Carlos:See the In this case, I

Your

Case law confirms this situation. Add to this and in this context, the differences in legal histories and interpretative mechanisms of

'common law' countries as in the Caribbean versus 'civil law' predominant in Latin America. Here is a perfect example case.

ICANN's premise is corporation under a legal and

This means ICANN's actions are only legal comply with its bye-laws.

LACRALO's premise is defined by the MOU signed with ICANN.

subject to the ICANN bye-laws; ICANN cannot make binding injurious to its bye-laws.

This is the text that describes the "Purpose and Scope" of LACRALO in

MOU signed with ICANN:

"This Memorandum of Signing

by, the Latin America & Caribbean Regional At-Large Large supported by ICANN."

Note

Here's the Latin

It is

of reference that means 'all of us ALSes, acting together'.

The certification requirement for ALSes poses another hurdle.

accept and certify ALSes is ceded to the ALAC by way of In other words, *LACRALO* does not and cannot exist mandated action of the ALAC.

The MOU states clearly the joint commitments, *singly and severally*,

parties to it.

The MOU, as signed, In turn, the ALSes binds us, ICANN

The truth is American and in

As far back as 2006, we have invited and had staff to explain this. I am on the the facts with the general was responding to the comments in the liar in

The records will show misuse of the

...

From

Cambronera well understands the differences.

context of names and numbers policy advocacy, advice and development is informed and limited by the signed MOU, which is itself subject to the powers and scope granted by the ICANN bye-laws and the LACRALO Rules of Procedure.

LACRALO may, if it so chooses,

described in its Rules of the rules of Lawyers

Here's the compelling rule change that rogue and

If

ICANN is duty bound to respond and act as the MOU and its bye-law so to do.

Best,- Carlton

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