Dear all, The secrecy in democracy is mandatory, to avoid presure to the voters. If we had an open system is a very wrong (antidemocratic) thing.  If the RoP's are lmposing another procedure, so  we need go back for more democracy, and not to go ahead for less. 
In the same sense the transparency is achieved with control of number of voters/votes, and certainty of what they vote. I personally ask for a system change, where all votes are valued equaly, because today the old system lose confidence, and dont express the reality in the region.
 Was a solution for an old LACRALO, today represent a form of denay a freedom of expresion. We need to go forward no to go back.

Carlos Dionisio Aguirre

El 27 abr 2026 15:30, lac-discuss-en--- via lac-discuss-es <lac-discuss-es@icann.org> escribió:

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Estimado Alberto:

¡Me sorprende que ahora las votaciones de LACRALO sean secretas!

No sé cuándo se produjo ese cambio, pero si es así, se trata de una infracción de rango.
de las reglas y no puede soportarlo.

Los documentos fundacionales de LACRALO hacen que cada elección sea abierta; se solicita
candidatos, nominación, nominación secundada, aceptación de la nominación.

Cada papeleta verificable; cuándo fue enviada, cuándo fue aceptada, cuándo fue
Se utilizó. Cada voto está abierto a la verificación de cada miembro.

Cada papeleta enviada al delegado de votación es verificada por el personal. Cuando se
Una vez recibido y marcado por el votante, se devuelve un acuse de recibo.
votante.

El personal tiene la obligación de gestionar ese reconocimiento.

Si así lo desean, todos los miembros de ALS pueden y deben ver esas papeletas. De hecho,
Las normas de LACRALO estipulan que se publiquen una vez aprobadas las elecciones.

Esto tiene un propósito de transparencia. Y nos oponemos inalterablemente a cualquier
cambio en esa política.

Salud,
Carlton

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*Carlton A. Samuels*

*Móvil: 876-818-1799Estrategia, Proceso, Gobernanza, Evaluación y Reestructuración*
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El miércoles 22 de abril de 2026 a las 12:40, alberto--- vía lac-discuss-en <
lac-discuss-en@icann.org> escribió:

> Lamento un discurso tan largo. Voy a contestar corta y respetuosamente:
> Reglas de Procedimiento de LACRALO
>
> Artículo 13.- El voto será por manifestación simbólica con la mano
> levantada en reuniones
> o asambleas presenciales, para asuntos que no son electorales y será
> registrado por un
>  funcionario para que no pueda haber dudas. Si la reunión es presencial,
> el voto para
> asuntos de elecciones para los puestos de liderazgo de LACRALO deberá ser
> por escrito,
> en papel y entregado cuando se realice la convocatoria a votar por el
> Presidente. Si la
> votación se da en forma virtual, la votación se hará por un medio que
> garantice la
> transparencia del proceso electoral. Específicamente:
> • El personal de la ICANN compartirá antes de cada elección la planilla
> que calcula la
> ponderación de votos;
> • Se hará pública la lista de las ALS que votaron;
> • Siempre habrá una opción de votar en forma anónima.
>
> Saludos cordiales
>
> Alberto Soto
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *De:* Carlos Dionisio Aguirre via lac-discuss-es <lac-discuss-es@icann.org
> >
> *Enviado:* Miércoles, 22 de Abril de 2026 11:01
> *Para:* lac-discuss-es@icann.org <lac-discuss-es@icann.org>; Lance Hinds <
> brainstreetceo@gmail.com>
> *CC:* lac-discuss-en@icann.org <lac-discuss-en@icann.org>
> *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-es] Re: [lac-discuss-en] Re: Solicitar inclusión
> temas en próxima reunión LACRALO
>
> *ENGLISH .-  (SPANISH BELOW)*
> *Subject: Concerns regarding the proposed changes to the voting system
> (Ref: Point 4)*
> Dear all,
> Allow me to offer some critical reflections regarding Alberto’s recent
> email, specifically addressing the proposals outlined in *point number
> four*.
> To address this point directly, I must pose a fundamental question to
> Alberto: * Are you truly a legal professional?* My skepticism arises
> directly from the assertions made in that fourth point, which appear to
> contradict the most basic tenets of constitutional law.
> My position—which aligns with that of every functional democracy in the
> world—is based on a non-negotiable principle: in any democratic society,
> the election of candidates must be conducted via *secret, universal,
> direct, and personal suffrage*.
> The *guaranteed secrecy of the ballot* is the cornerstone of a voter's
> freedom of expression. It serves as the primary safeguard against coercion,
> preventing those in positions of power from exerting undue pressure or
> retaliation against the electorate. When an individual decides their future
> or selects those who will hold decision-making authority, they must be able
> to do so with absolute autonomy and responsibility.
> The secret ballot is not merely a preference; it is a *mandatory legal
> requirement* that must be vigorously defended.
> These concepts are not novel; they are foundational pillars taught in
> every law school and university across the globe. Therefore, to propose a
> departure from this system—or even to suggest it as a viable
> alternative—strikes me as an act of profound ignorance and a "brutality"
> against democratic standards. Such a suggestion is particularly alarming
> coming from someone who claims to be a lawyer.
> Carlos Dionisio AGUIRRE.
>
> ESPAÑOL .-
> *Asunto: Preocupaciones respecto a los cambios propuestos al sistema de
> votación (Ref: Punto 4)*
> Estimados todos:
> Permítanme ofrecer algunas reflexiones críticas con respecto al reciente
> correo electrónico de Alberto, abordando específicamente las propuestas
> descritas en el *punto número cuatro*.
> Para abordar este punto directamente, debo plantearle una pregunta
> fundamental a Alberto: *¿Es usted realmente un profesional del derecho?* Mi
> escepticismo surge directamente de las afirmaciones realizadas en ese
> cuarto punto, las cuales parecen contradecir los principios más básicos del
> derecho constitucional.
> Mi posición —que se alinea con la de todas las democracias funcionales del
> mundo— se basa en un principio innegociable: en cualquier sociedad
> democrática, la elección de candidatos debe realizarse mediante *sufragio
> secreto, universal, directo y personal*.
> El *carácter secreto del voto* es la piedra angular de la libertad de
> expresión del elector. Sirve como la salvaguarda principal contra la
> coacción, evitando que quienes ocupan posiciones de poder ejerzan presiones
> indebidas o represalias contra el electorado. Cuando un individuo decide su
> futuro o selecciona a quienes ostentarán la autoridad en la toma de
> decisiones, debe poder hacerlo con absoluta autonomía y responsabilidad.
> El voto secreto no es una mera preferencia; es un *requisito legal
> obligatorio* que debe ser defendido vigorosamente.
> Estos conceptos no son novedosos; son pilares fundacionales que se enseñan
> en todas las facultades de derecho y universidades del mundo. Por lo tanto,
> proponer un alejamiento de este sistema —o incluso sugerirlo como una
> alternativa viable— me parece un acto de profunda ignorancia y una
> "brutalidad" contra los estándares democráticos. Tal sugerencia es
> particularmente alarmante proviniendo de alguien que afirma ser abogado.
> Carlos Dionisio AGUIRRE
>
> ------------------------------
> *De:* Lance Hinds via lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en@icann.org>
> *Enviado:* martes, 21 de abril de 2026 16:21
> *Para:* lac-discuss-es@icann.org <lac-discuss-es@icann.org>
> *Cc:* lac-discuss-en@icann.org <lac-discuss-en@icann.org>
> *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] Re: [lac-discuss-es] Solicitar inclusión temas
> en próxima reunión LACRALO
>
> Dear Alberto,
>
> Thank you. Your suggestions will certainly be taken into consideration at
> the board level.
>
> Best regards
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 2:22 PM lac-discuss-es--- via lac-discuss-en <
> lac-discuss-en@icann.org> wrote:
>
> [[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]]
>
> Dear Mr. President of LACRALO, I request that you kindly include the
> topics listed below in the next monthly meeting to be held on April 27,
> 2026.
>
>  1. 1. Trips via CROP. Explanation of how to request them.
>  2.2. LACRALO Working Groups. Activities
>  3. Upcoming LACRALO elections. Request from the appropriate personnel the
> participation metrics for LACRALO meetings, ALAC working groups, and
> LACRALO working groups.
>  4. That the nature of the LACRALO elections be changed again and that the
> elections no longer be secret.
>  With my warmest regards
>
>  Alberto Soto
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  .
>
>  C
>
>
>
>  C
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