Really now!

I have retreated from this list because it depresses the spirit....and take away from the quality of my life.

May be the member from Ibero-America is in a time zone that is 12 hours ahead of us. But the record will show this is yet another example of the LACRALO [ex] leadership tendency to dictatorial Franco-style behaviour.

And why they no longer enjoy my respect. Or acknowledgement.

Know this well. The rump that is LACRALO leadership will never be allowed to define the Caribbean's experience or its needs. PERIOD.

I am Jamaican. I know what is happening in Jamaica and the Caribbean at large. Quite apart from the fact we were never consulted, the proposal under CROPP for Derisma Queslin to attend CaribNOG shows major deficiencies. And a woeful ignorance of our situation.

Most CaribNOG attendees are English-speaking. The senior leadership of CaribNOG are very much aware of the technical aspects of ICANN engagement; check out Bevil Wooding here: http://www.root-dnssec.org/tcr/selection-2010/

I don't know Derisma Queslin. But I can assure you that given the goals of CROPP, I am not aware that Derisma Queslin has the experience or previous involvement in ICANN and ICANN At-Large to effectively execute outreach to mostly English-speaking Caribbean At-Large interests on the behalf of ICANN At-Large.

CROPP has a residual purpose of outreach and engagement. So we could make a very weak case for Derisma Queslin to attend with the goal of having that person become more engaged in ICANN At Large. But absent direct mentoring, that goal would not likely to be successfully realized.

The proposal submitted by Jacqueline Morris falls directly inline with the desired goals and outcomes for CROPP. My friend and colleague Bevil Wooding is the convenor and in chareg of the agenda at CaribNOG. Jacqueline has already assured a speaking slot at CaribNOG 11, thus raising the profile of ICANN At-Large at CaribNOG 11. Jacqueline could also mentor Derisma and make introductions to the attendees at CaribNOG.

Given we have available CROPP slots, the goals and outcomes of CROPP can be realized by sending both proposals. The proposal for Desirma Queslin may be updated to focus on engagement and the proposal for Jacqueline Morris continues to focus on outreach and she can also mentor Derisma as described earlier.

-Carlton Samuels

The University of the West Indies

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On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Jacqueline Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:

Hi everyone
The Outreach meeting information indicated that the deadline for submitting a CROPP application was March 2nd, which is today. I've submitted mine, but it seems from this thread that the decision has already been made, albeit before the due date? I really hope that given that my submission was done in advance of the date, my application is considered for this outreach event.
Sincerely
Jacqueline Morris

Jacqueline A. Morris
Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann )

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:26 PM, <sylvia@internautabrasil.org> wrote:

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Subject: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica
from: sylvia@internautabrasil.org

+1

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From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome of Humberto Carrasco
Posted in: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 21:16
To: Alejandro Pisanty
Cc: LACRALO
Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Event Caribnog in Jamaica

Alexander,

A very wise decision in my view.

Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

The 01/03/2016, at 8:58 pm, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty@gmail.com> He wrote:

Alberto, all / as,

I applaud this decision by the procedure, criteria, organization and the person appointed. A good result of your action to diversify the presence of the neediest organizations in the Caribbean.

Alejandro Pisanty

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote:

Dear all, Dev.
Below the link with the application for the event in Montego Bay, Jamaica.
Derisma concur Queslin, member of the Association des Haitienne
Internautes Haiti. This will allow our ALS, which resides in a country
with poor communications, make contact with the various sponsors and
concurrent. It is requested that ALS had a technical profile for
be commensurate to the level of the event.
You get a specific view of the region, and may disseminate
ALS develops its activities, LACRALO and ICANN.
I'll send to the event venue, media materials and LACRALO
I CAN.

Best regards

Alberto Soto

https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT

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From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org
[Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of Alberto
copse
Posted on: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:39 a.m.
To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org
CC: 'LACRALO discussion list' <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] The results of the LACRALO call O & E
on Thursday 25 February 2016

Dear, we are working on the designation of who will attend this
event. This form will be filed with the applicant designated in the
today or tomorrow.

Best regards

Alberto Soto

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From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org
[Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of Posted
on: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:01 a.m.
To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org
CC: LACRALO discussion list <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Subject: Re: Results of the LACRALO call O & E on Thursday 25
February 2016

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Subject: Re: Results of the LACRALO call O & E on Thursday 25
February 2016
From: devtee@gmail.com

Thanks Jacqueline, here is how LACRALO CROPP to be filled
https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT

The materials can be sent to headquarters by the ICANN staff,
provided advance notice. Outreach and Participation SC
wiki has a page to keep track of such materials
broadcasting applications.

dev Anand

The Sun February 27, 2016 at 18:01, Jacqueline Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com>
He wrote:
> Hi everyone
> I can be available for the CaribNog meeting. It luckily falls exactly
> in
> days between the UTT and UWI exam periods. Can materials etc be
> shipped directly to the venue? The overlap on April 20th between ARIN
> and CaribNog seems serendipitous as well. Sounds like a great opportunity
> Jacqueline
>
> Jacqueline A. Morris
> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
> (after Chris Lehmann )
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> The LACRALO members of the Outreach and Engagement SC (LAC O&E) had a
>> on
>> Thursday 25 February 2016 ( https://community.icann.org/x/UxmAAw)
>> Together with the LACRALO chair and secretariat reviewed the LAC
>> Outreach events calendar maintained by the LAC O & E
>> (Http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar-List) for possible outreach
>> Events That Could be used for CROPP Proposals.
>>
>> Three Proposals Were Identified as suitable candidates for using CROPP:
>>
>> CaribNOG (Jamaica) - April 20 to April 22 LACNIC 26 (Cuba) - May 2
>> To May 6 First Latin American and Caribbean Forum (Colombia) - May 17
>> To May 18
>>
>> For the CaribNOG event, no traveler was on the call Suggested.
>> Suggestions?
>> A request for CaribNOG CROPP needs to be filed around March 2, 2016.
>>
>> For the LACNIC 26, Cuba, Harold Suggested Arcos was.
>> A request for LACNIC needs CROPP filed by March to July 2016.
>>
>> For the Latin American and Caribbean Forum in Colombia, it was
>> Suggested That a speaker, Shiva Bissessar Could speak on
>> Cybersecurity At this event using a CROPP proposal. A request CROPP
>> For This proposal needs to be filed by March 29 2016.
>>
>> It was NOTED That Bartlett Morgan HAD Obtained a fellowship to SSGI
>> 2016 from March 29 to April 2016 January 2016 so I would need some
>> Outreach materials before then.
>>
Dev Anand >>
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