March 2014 - lac-discuss-es

Thank you for great work!
by Vanda UOL March 27, 2014

March 27, 2014

Thank you very much for your great work! Hope to continue to see you around contributing to our region relevance on Internet! Kisses Vanda Scartezini Sent from my iPad Sorry for any typos and misspellings

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Gracias por un gran trabajo!
by vanda＠uol.com.br March 27, 2014

March 27, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Gracias por un gran trabajo! De: vanda(a)uol.com.br Muchas gracias por tu gran trabajo! Espero seguir viendo por ahí que contribuye a nuestra relevancia región en Internet! Besos Vanda Scartezini Enviado desde mi iPad Lo siento por los errores tipográficos y ortográficos cualquier _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/1adf518ecb.html --]]

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Declaración de LACRALO respecto la transferencia de la supervisión en la administración de las funciones de IANA
by José Francisco Arce March 27, 2014

March 27, 2014

Estimada Comunidad, Les comparto la declaración final de LACRALO sobre este importante tema Lo encuentran adjunto o en el siguiente link: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=47261889 -- Arce, José F. Chair LACRALO Sylvia Herlein Leite Secretariat LACRALO

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RESULTADOS VOTACION PRESIDENTE/ SECRETARIO LACRALO / VOTE RESULTS: LACRALO Election March 2014/LACRALO Elecciones Marzo 2014
by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org March 27, 2014

March 27, 2014

Estimados Miembros de LACRALO: Como estipulado, la segunda votación terminó el 24 de marzo a las 23UTC y como resultado Alberto Soto será el presidente y Humberto Carrasco el secretario de la región durante un año, comenzando sus funciones el jueves 27 de marzo al término oficial del ICANN 49 de Singapur. Felicitaciones a los electos y éxitos en sus funciones! No puedo dejar resaltar que lamentablemente algunos representantes que confirmaron su participación en ATLAS II, no han participado de este proceso. Vean los detalles de la elección que ha enviado el staff. Sin más, Sylvia Please note the vote for LACRALO Election March 2014/LACRALO Elecciones Marzo 2014 has now ended. ***** QUESTION / PREGUNTA: Who do you recommend as the LACRALO preferred candidate to serve as LACRALO Chair for the period 2014-2015 from the Latin American and Caribbean region? Please indicate ONE candidate. / Cuál es su candidato de LACRALO preferido para servir como Presidente de LACRALO para la Región de Latino América y el Caribe para el periodo 2014-2015? Por favor indique UN candidato. * Alberto Soto * Sergio Salinas * Abstain/Abstención As at Poll close: Monday 24 March 2014 23:00 UTC Number of voters: 36 (9009.000000000 weighted) · Group size: 41 (9997 total weight) · Percentage voted: 87.80 (90.12 of total weight) Ranked by votes Rank Options Weighted Votes % Voters % Voters 1 Alberto Soto 4,661.00 51.74 18 50.00 Carlton A. Samuels(w208), Juan Manuel Rojas P(w208), Jose Olvidio Salgueiro(w313), Adrian Carballo(w78), Natalia Enciso(w313), Mónica Abalo Laforgia(w78), Aislan Vargas Basilio(w156), Alberto Soto(w78), Jose Juis Barzallo(w156), Roosvelt O. King(w208), Dev Anand Teelucksingh(w208), Carlos Dionisio Aguirre(w78), Freddy Linares Torres(w313), Jose Arce(w78), Aida Noblia(w625), Alejandro Pisanty(w625), Maricarmen Sequera Buzarquis(w313), Carlos Alberto Watson Carazo(w625) 2 Sergio Salinas Porto 2,865.00 31.80 12 33.33 Vanda Scartezini(w156), Sergio Bronstein(w313), Javier Eduardo Chandia Rojas(w313), Sylvia Herlein Leite(w156), Sergio Walter Salinas Porto(w78), Cristian Casas(w78), Johnny Laureano(w313), Gilberto Lara(w625), Carlos Vera(w156), Diego Acosta Bastidas(w156), Alfredo Lopez(w208), Humberto Carrasco(w313) 3 Abstain/Abstención 1,483.00 16.46 6 16.67 Antonio Medina Gomez(w208), Omar Kaminski(w156), Raul Bauer(w78), Jessel Ackbarali(w208), Lance Hinds(w625), Niran Beharry(w208) QUESTION / PREGUNTA: Who do you recommend as the LACRALO preferred candidate to serve as LACRALO Secretariat for the period 2014-2015 from the Latin American and Caribbean region? Please indicate ONE candidate. / Cuál es su candidato de LACRALO preferido para servir como Secretario de LACRALO para la Región de Latino América y el Caribe para el periodo 2014-2015 ? Por favor indique UN candidate. * Humberto Carrasco * Juan Manuel Rojas * Abstain/Abstención As at Poll close: Monday 24 March 2014 23:00 UTC Number of voters: 36 (9009.000000000 weighted) · Group size: 41 (9997 total weight) · Percentage voted: 87.80 (90.12 of total weight) Ranked by votes Rank Options Weighted Votes % Voters % Voters 1 Humberto Carrasco 4,480.00 49.73 17 47.22 Vanda Scartezini(w156), Antonio Medina Gomez(w208), Jose Olvidio Salgueiro(w313), Sergio Bronstein(w313), Javier Eduardo Chandia Rojas(w313), Sylvia Herlein Leite(w156), Sergio Walter Salinas Porto(w78), Cristian Casas(w78), Johnny Laureano(w313), Jose Juis Barzallo(w156), Gilberto Lara(w625), Carlos Vera(w156), Freddy Linares Torres(w313), Diego Acosta Bastidas(w156), Alfredo Lopez(w208), Aida Noblia(w625), Humberto Carrasco(w313) 2 Juan Manuel Rojas 3,566.00 39.58 14 38.89 Carlton A. Samuels(w208), Juan Manuel Rojas P(w208), Adrian Carballo(w78), Natalia Enciso(w313), Mónica Abalo Laforgia(w78), Aislan Vargas Basilio(w156), Alberto Soto(w78), Roosvelt O. King(w208), Dev Anand Teelucksingh(w208), Carlos Dionisio Aguirre(w78), Lance Hinds(w625), Jose Arce(w78), Alejandro Pisanty(w625), Carlos Alberto Watson Carazo(w625) 3 Abstain/Abstención 963.00 10.69 5 13.89 Omar Kaminski(w156), Raul Bauer(w78), Jessel Ackbarali(w208), Niran Beharry(w208), Maricarmen Sequera Buzarquis(w313) ***** To confirm, the LACRALO Chair for the period 2014-2015 is Alberto Soto. You may review the results independently under: https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=3726fE8LyqzIwPpVcfRxe3Xf To confirm, the LACRALO Secretariat for the period 2014-2015 is Humberto Carrasco. You may review the results independently under: https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=3727XwbnYWERGM9mRiNLhHk5 Thank you, Ariel Xinyue (Ariel) Liang | Washington DC At-Large Policy Coordinator Direct +1 (202) 249-7552 Mobile +1 (310) 804-2761 Email ariel.liang(a)icann.org Web www.icann.org unknown.png

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RV: ATLAS II Thematic Content Development Update
by Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch March 26, 2014

March 26, 2014

Colegas, la información de este mensaje de la lista At Large parece ilustrar el comentario recibido en esta lista en el sentido de que algunos temas de la Conferencia ATLAS II cambiarían. Seguramente convendrá reorganizar los grupos. Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Facultad de Química UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ Desde: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de ICANN At-Large Staff [staff(a)atlarge.icann.org] Enviado el: miércoles, 26 de marzo de 2014 17:29 Hasta: alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: ICANN At-Large Staff Asunto: Re: [ALAC-Announce] ATLAS II Thematic Content Development Update Re-sending From: ICANN At-Large Staff Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:52 AM To: alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff (staff(a)atlarge.icann.org) wolf.ludwig(a)comunica-ch.net; 'Evan Leibovitch <evan(a)telly.org> (evan(a)telly.org)' Subject: ATLAS II Thematic Content Development Update Dear All, Please find a message sent on behalf of Wolf Ludwig and Evan Leibovitch, co-leaders of the thematic content development at both ATLAS I and ATLAS II: ** Dear All, At-Large participants at the Singapore meeting met today to discuss At-Large Summit II (ATLAS II) preparatory questions such as logistical issues and thematic priorities and questions for the forthcoming summit in London. Among the items discussed, the group reviewed the inputs of the ATLAS II Event Working Group in detail by comparing it with the ATLAS II Survey results. After a very dynamic on-spot discussion, the topics of the break-out priorities were amended taking into account the overarching ATLAS II theme and recent key announcements within the Internet eco-system. The modified list of topics are noted below. They will be discussed in further details tomorrow. 1. The future of multistakeholderism - Adam Peake to Lead 2. The globalization of ICANN 3. Global Internet: The User Perspective 4. ICANN Transparency and Accountability 5. At-Large Community Engagement in ICANN Thanks and regards, Wolf and Evan ** Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<applewebdata://68497759-1B04-4F9B-84B7-B9445B8F305F/Regards,%20Heidi%20Ullrich,%20Silvia%20Vivanco,%20Matt%20Ashtiani,%20Ariel%20Liang,%20Gisella%20Gruber,%20Nathalie%20Peregrine%20and%20Julia%20Charvolen%20ICANN%20Policy%20Staff%20in%20support%20of%20ALACmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> _______________________________________________ ALAC-Announce mailing list ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce At-Large Official Site: http://www.atlarge.icann.org

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Re: Resultados de la votaci�n: 2.014 At-Large Director Ejecutivo (asiento # 15) Proceso de Selecci�n
by ocl＠gih.com March 26, 2014

March 26, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Resultados de la votación: 2.014 At-Large Director Ejecutivo (asiento # 15) Proceso de Selección De: ocl(a)gih.com Queridos todos, Quería expresar mis felicitaciones a Rinalia Abdul Rahim en lo que fue una elección muy equilibrada que requiere de muchas rondas de diferenciar la candidatos. Rinalia ha sido seleccionada por nuestra comunidad a participar en el Consejo a un momento en el que no sólo es crucial para At-Large, sino también crucial para la ICANN como un todo. Ella tomará su asiento en la Junta General de 2014 la ICANN Reunión - la última reunión del año - que se llevará a cabo en Los Ángeles. Gracias a todos los candidatos que han corrido para el puesto. Es a través de una amplia lista de candidatos que podemos asegurar una mayor oferta de opciones para el futuro de nuestra comunidad. Gracias a Roberto Gaetano y el Comité de Evaluación del Candidato Junta. Su trabajo ha sido crucial en la provisión de una primera clase de corta lista de candidatos. Gracias a Tijani Ben Jemaa y el Proceso de Selección de miembro de la Junta Comité para su gestión de un proceso que ha sido un reto debido a las múltiples instancias de Ties. El trabajo de estos comités no ha terminado. Analizarán las lecciones aprendido y trabajar juntos para proporcionar la ALAC con un conjunto actualizado de recomendaciones para mejorar el proceso de selección la próxima vez. Por último, me gustaría recordarles que hasta el 2014 la ICANN AGM, el Miembro de la Junta elegido por At-Large es Sbastien Bachollet y le gustaría reafirmar el pleno apoyo de nuestra comunidad en los meses difíciles por delante de nosotros. Somos muy conscientes de que no está en la Junta "representar nosotros ", sino como un candidato de nuestra comunidad seleccionada a la Junta por nuestro comunidad, que él mismo ha demostrado para compartir su experiencia de Internet End Los usuarios con sus colegas de la Junta y estamos agradecidos de su continua participación en todos los asuntos de ICANN. Un cordial saludo, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond Presidente del ALAC El 26/03/2014 15:06, ICANN At-Large escribió: > Dear All, > > Tijani Ben Jemaa, Chair of the Board Member Selection Process Committee (BMSPC) 2014, has asked that an announcement on the final vote results of the Board Director (Seat #15) selected by the ALAC/At-Large for 2015-2017 (to take their seat at the 2014 AGM) be published. > > This is to inform you that the 2014 At-Large Board Director (Seat #15) Selection Process was completed on 25-March-2014. > > Below is the list of candidates (listed in alphabetical order of the family name) who ran for the position: > > * Rinalia Abdul Rahim > * Sébastien Bachollet > * Alan Greenberg > * Evan Leibovitch > * Jean-Jacques Subrenat > > After the FIRST ROUND VOTE and the SECOND ROUND's first vote, tie breaking vote, and second (final) vote, the candidate who is selected as the Board Director (Seat #15) by ALAC/At-Large for 2015-2017 is: Rinalia Abdul Rahim. > > You may review the results, as well as the detailed information about the selection procedure, under: https://community.icann.org/x/WinRAg. > > Regards, > > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC > E-mail: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org%3cmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<applewebdata://68497759-1B04-4F9B-84B7-B9445B8F305F/Regards,%20Heidi%20Ullrich,%20Silvia%20Vivanco,%20Matt%20Ashtiani,%20Ariel%20Liang,%20Gisella%20Gruber,%20Nathalie%20Peregrine%20and%20Julia%20Charvolen%20ICANN%20Policy%20Staff%20in%20support%20of%20ALACmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> > > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/29b0ac6932.html --]]

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Re: RV: ICANN Alerta de Noticias - ICANN busca la opini�n p�blica en 2013 RAA Retenci�n de datos Especificaci�n Elementos de datos y prop�sitos leg�timos para recogida y conservaci�n
by aidanoblia＠gmail.com March 26, 2014

March 26, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: RV: ICANN Alerta de Noticias - ICANN busca la opinión pública en 2013 RAA Retención de datos Especificación Elementos de datos y propósitos legítimos para recogida y conservación De: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com Gracias Carlton, estoy dispuesto a trabajar por lo que podría ser útil para el comunidad Saludos Ada 03/26/2014 19:00 GMT-03: 00 Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> : > Excellent exposition of the issue, Aida. Registrars in EU jurisdictions + > those with similar data protection regimes and reciprocal arrangements with > EU data protection like Uruguay are the ones most affected. > > The EWG on Next Generation Registration Data Services have tackled this > issue in our deliberations and would welcome your insight and input. I > trust you are also a member and following the At-Large Registration Issues > WG. > > Kind regards, > -Carlton > > > ============================== > Carlton A Samuels > Mobile: 876-818-1799 > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* > ============================= > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:55 PM, <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > > Subject: Re: RV: ICANN News Alert - ICANN Seeks Public Comment on 2013 > > RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and Legitimate Purposes > for > > Collection and Retention > > From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com > > > > Fatima, Alberto, Alejandro and all > > > > > > Ses understand that a very important issue, and also in the complex > > laws, I could not attend the roundtable mencionFtima is > > You can listen any recording? is still some time for > > comments? I am not clear what is the closing date for comments. > > > > > > National legislation on protection of personal data are > > rather strict, and also the right of access to information > > pblica because ahestara the limit necessary to know what can > > and must publish and what not, with quextensin, for how long, quines > > they can do it, you can publish lbremente qudatos cules and require > > free, express, written consent of the owner ... > > > > > > In Uruguay the Law 18331 and its implementing regulations refer to the > > protection of personal data (qualified in two types (sensitive or not) > > As a human right protected by the constitution of the Republic. It > > provides the owner of the personal data ARCO rights acronym that > > level legislation includes right to access the database, > > Corrigendum of Erroneous data or modified in reality, > > Erroneous or correction of inaccurate data and Oposicina who does what > > the law calls "treatment" of the data that is generally any > use > > of > > these express your personal information without written consent > > holder. > > > > > > There is a Regulatory Unit Registration and Control of such data by the > > Agency electronic government, in the Register of the Specifications > > contain mandatory for all personal data that has a base, and > > is of public or private persons, controls, and procedures performed > > auditing and punishing violators with fines and even closure of the > > database. > > > > > > There is a base charge and take charge of the practice by > > account of others or their own. The law regulates their > responsibilities. > > The owner of the database, or jurdica physical person is responding by > > use or processing of personal data to the owner of that data. > > > > > > An when they can use or deal in certain circumstances, > > consent of the owner or in cases of data that supports your > > treatment without l, personal data can not be used for other > > purposes for which the owner permitted use. > > > > > > The base is responsible for their own or decides its use: > > Personal data is collected for a purpose and should be > > eliminated once cumplila purpose for which it was collected, > > can transmit only in certain conditions .. etc.. It is that > > responsible for the base, which can be physical or legal person to whom > > the > > data subject can enforce penalties or > > may correspond. > > > > > > With variations, this is repeated in the legislation.In case of > > international data transfer international law applies, and > > habrque therefore analyze what is the applicable law and jurisdiction > > competition. > > > > > > > > > > In the case of ICANN, the owner of the database is * not * ICANN, for > > Therefore, * is not * legally controller who is made of the > > personal data. > > > > > > According saw, in the system of the new agreement, the service is > > outsourced, > > To improve it in terms of the quality of the data and also about its > > treatment, but that does not mean the change of ownership. > > > > > > So ICANN agrees the "excencin" of data retention in > > analyzing some specific cases and by a special procedure, > > but hurting the service is intended to improve the users by > > this new medium. > > > > > > This is done at the request of the records to be released from their > > liability because by not having to keep the data in accordance with > > According to ICANN no longer have to answer to the law for their > > conservation, damage, misuse, etc..It emphasizes the need for the > > good faith by the owner or holder of the database (check in) > > which contains the data, though this good faith is a matter of difficult > > certain proof. > > > > > > Also, to not keep such data prevents any possibility > > fulfill the functions of ICANN in such cases, with respect to the > > prevention of > > damages that may result from misuse of domain names and > > similar. > > > > > > > > > > The issue in each case is to analyze these requests, if you really > > retention of such data is necessary for the service prestacin > > to Travs registry is provided or if it constitutes a violation of the > > law. The blog that cases can be referred to and do not appear > > so rare. And the position of registrars is clearly find that > > facilitate their task. but in this case may be against the effectiveness > > and > > completeness of the service provided by ICANN. From what has already > been > > given and can > > see on the web, it seems that security prevails.But the ms allde > > presentation requirements of having the case (with reports of attorney, > > etc. > > ) Should be studied very well in that case is given rather than presumed > > good faith as a way to resolve these cases. > > > > > > Otherwise give an endorsement by the owners of the Records > > released from liability, affect the risk of compliance > > other obligations, affect all other obligations of the > > Register and its owner as dueoo who treats data. > > > > > > As decan seems a matter of interest. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3/22/2014 20:59 GMT-03: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> : > > > > > > > > > Fátima, solo serán las 04:00 AM en Buenos Aires... Pero prometo > > participar. > > > > > > Gracias!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > > > > > De: Fatima Cambronero [mailto:fatimacambronero@gmail.com] > > > Enviado el: sábado, 22 de marzo de 2014 08:54 p.m. > > > Para: Alberto Soto > > > CC: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch; LACRALO Español > > > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RV: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- > > ICANN > > > Seeks Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data > > Elements > > > and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention > > > > > > > > > > > > Alejandro, Alberto, > > > > > > > > > > > > Comparto la opinión de que estamos frente a un tema interesante que > > > deberíamos poder analizar y pronunciarnos desde nuestra región. > > > > > > > > > > > > El día lunes 24 a las 15 hs. local de Singapur está prevista una Mesa > > > Redonda sobre Servicios de Directorio de Registro: presente y futuro. > Si > > > bien este tema concretamente no está incluido en la agenda de la > reunión, > > > es > > > un tema muy relacionado que quizás aparezca en los debates. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sería bueno participar en esta Mesa Redonda para escuchar y discutir > los > > > comentarios que pueda haber al respecto. Entiendo que en el horario de > > > nuestros países queda en una franja un poco complicada. Yo voy a estar > > > atendiendo a dicha reunión. Si hay algún comentario o consulta que > > quieran > > > hacer llegar, me ofrezco para transmitirlos. > > > > > > > > > > > > Este es el enlace a la agenda de esta Mesa Redonda: > > > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Roundtable+on+Registrat > > > ion+Directory+Services%3A+Now+and+the+Future+-+2014.03.24+-+Singapore > > > > > > > > > > > > Aquí el enlace al Adobe Connect: > > https://icann.adobeconnect.com/sin49-vip/ > > > (este es el mismo para todas las reuniones de At-Large de la semana). > > > > > > > > > > > > Saludos cordiales, > > > > > > Fatima Cambronero > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-03-21 23:40 GMT-03:00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > > <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >: > > > > > > Creo que el interés debe ser suficiente. Es justamente uno de los > temas > > > que > > > hacen a la existencia de entidades orientadas al usuario final de > > Internet, > > > es decir, NOSOTROS. > > > Con seguridad hay distintas legislaciones para cada país, al menos en > > > algunos ítems sustanciales. Aunque hay países que aún no tienen > > > legislación. > > > Hay 30 días para comentarios, es poco tiempo para la importancia del > > tema. > > > Sugiero que muy rápidamente las respectivas ALSs de cada país de > nuestra > > > Región, lea los antecedentes de esta referencia, y luego informen la > > > legislación vigente en su respectivo país, con comentarios. También > > sugiero > > > que para esta primera fase, la fecha límite sea el próximo viernes > > > 28/03/2014. > > > También sugiero que quienes están participando en Singapur, sean > eximidos > > > de > > > participar, tienen cosas muy importante que hacer por nosotros. > > > > > > Saludos cordiales > > > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > > > De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] En nombre de > > Dr. > > > Alejandro Pisanty Baruch > > > Enviado el: viernes, 21 de marzo de 2014 11:25 p.m. > > > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] RV: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- ICANN > > > Seeks > > > > > > Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements > and > > > Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention > > > > > > Colegas, > > > > > > el llamado anexo puede tener implicaciones legales apreciables en > nuestra > > > región. Convoquemos a los expertos en protección de datos personales y > > > otros > > > temas relacionados con la retención de datos (cómputo forense, leyes de > > > telecomunicaciones, Marco Civil en el caso particular de Brasil) para > > > conformar una opinión sólida, si hay el interés suficiente. > > > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > > > Facultad de Química UNAM > > > Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > > > > > > > > > +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > > > > > > +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 > > > Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > > Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, > > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > > ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > Desde: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > <mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > [alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > <mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] en nombre de > > > ICANN > > > At-Large > > > Staff [staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> ] > > Enviado > > > el: viernes, 21 de marzo de 2014 > > > 20:00 > > > Hasta: ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > <mailto:ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > Asunto: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Public Comment > on > > > 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and Legitimate > > Purposes > > > for Collection and Retention > > > > > > [http://www.icann.org/images/gradlogo_bow.jpg]<http://www.icann.org/> > > > News Alert > > > > > > > http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-3-21mar14-en.htm > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > ICANN Seeks Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification > Data > > > Elements and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention > > > > > > 21 March 2014 > > > > > > ICANN has been in discussions with a number of Registrars regarding > data > > > retention waiver requests ("Waiver Requests") submitted under the 2013 > > > Registrar Accreditation Agreement (the "2013 RAA"). Some Registrars are > > > seeking an exemption from certain collection and/or retention > > requirements > > > under the Data Retention Specification (the "Specification") of the > 2013 > > > RAA. Section 2 of the Data Retention Specification sets forth > > requirements > > > regarding the written materials a Registrar must submit in support of > its > > > good faith determination that the collection and/or retention of any > data > > > element specified in the Specification violates applicable law, and > > > provides > > > that following notice to ICANN of the Waiver Request, ICANN and the > > > applicable Registrar shall discuss the matter in good faith in an > effort > > to > > > reach a mutually acceptable resolution of the matter. An update on the > > 2013 > > > RAA and the data retention waiver process can be found here: > > > > > > > > > http://blog.icann.org/2014/02/update-on-2013-raa-and-data-retention-waiver-p > > > < > > > > > > http://blog.icann.org/2014/02/update-on-2013-raa-and-data-retention-waiver- > > > process/> > > > rocess/ > > > > > > ICANN understands that personal data should be treated in accordance > with > > > applicable data protection laws, which generally permit gathering and > > > retention of personal data for legitimate purpose(s). ICANN also > > > understands > > > that the law may vary from country to country as to (i) what is > > considered > > > a > > > legitimate purpose, (ii) whether the personal data is adequate, > relevant > > > and > > > not excessive in relation to the legitimate purpose for which they are > > > collected and (iii) for how long certain data elements may be retained. > > In > > > other words, what is considered a legitimate purpose for collection of > > > certain data in one country may not be considered a legitimate purpose > in > > > another country. > > > > > > During ICANN's discussions in an effort to reach a mutually acceptable > > > resolution of the matter, some Registrars have requested that ICANN (a) > > > clarify and better define certain data elements described in the Data > > > Retention Specification that the Registrars maintain are not clearly > > > defined; and (b) describe potentially legitimate purposes for > collection > > > and > > > retention of each data element that would help provide guidance for > > > Registrars both as to whether such elements may be lawfully collected, > > and, > > > if so, for how long such elements might lawfully be retained. > > > > > > In response to these requests from some Registrars, ICANN is posting > for > > > public comment a document seeking to clarify what is meant by certain > > data > > > elements described in the Data Retention Specification and describing > > > potentially legitimate purposes for collection and retention of those > > data > > > elements. That document can be found > > > here< > > > > http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/draft-data-retention-s > > > < > > > > > > http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/draft-data-retention-spec- > > > elements-21mar14-en.pdf> > > > pec-elements-21mar14-en.pdf> [PDF, 116 KB]. The document will be posted > > for > > > a period of thirty (30) days to seek feedback and input from the > > community > > > on (i) whether the data elements are appropriately described, (ii) > > whether > > > the cited purposes for collection and retention are appropriate and > > > legitimate, and (iii) whether there are other potentially legitimate > > > purposes for collection and retention of such data elements. After the > > > thirty (30) day period following this posting has expired, ICANN will > > > consider all feedback and input received in connection with ICANN's > > ongoing > > > discussions to reach a mutually acceptable resolution of Waiver > Requests. > > > In > > > the interim, ICANN will continue its ongoing discussions to reach a > > > mutually > > > acceptable resolution of Waiver Requests with individual Registrars > with > > > the > > > goal of granting additional Waiver Requests as and when appropriate. > > > > > > A public comment period will remain open until 23:59 p.m. > PDT/California, > > > 21 > > > April 2014. Public comments will be available for consideration by > ICANN > > > staff and the ICANN Board. > > > > > > * Comments can be posted to: > > > comments-retention-21mar14(a)icann.org > > > <mailto:comments-retention-21mar14@icann.org> > > > <mailto:comments-retention-21mar14@icann > > > <mailto:comments-retention-21mar14@icann> > > > .org> > > > * Comments can be viewed at: > > > http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-retention-21mar14/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ALAC-Announce mailing list > > > ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > <mailto:ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce > > > > > > At-Large Official Site: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Fatima Cambronero > > > Abogada-Argentina > > > > > > Phone: +54 9351 5282 668 > > > Twitter: @facambronero > > > Skype: fatima.cambronero > > > > > > Join the LACRALO/ICANN discussions: > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > > > Join the Diplo Internet Governance Community discussions: > > > http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/ > > > > > > Join to the Internet Society (ISOC): http://www.internetsociety.org/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aida Noblia > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/cc6d7bfe2f.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] RV: ICANN News Alert - ICANN Seeks Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention
by Carlton Samuels March 26, 2014

March 26, 2014

Excellent exposition of the issue, Aida. Registrars in EU jurisdictions + those with similar data protection regimes and reciprocal arrangements with EU data protection like Uruguay are the ones most affected. The EWG on Next Generation Registration Data Services have tackled this issue in our deliberations and would welcome your insight and input. I trust you are also a member and following the At-Large Registration Issues WG. Kind regards, -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:55 PM, <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re: RV: ICANN News Alert - ICANN Seeks Public Comment on 2013 > RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and Legitimate Purposes for > Collection and Retention > From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com > > Fatima, Alberto, Alejandro and all > > > Ses understand that a very important issue, and also in the complex > laws, I could not attend the roundtable mencionFtima is > You can listen any recording? is still some time for > comments? I am not clear what is the closing date for comments. > > > National legislation on protection of personal data are > rather strict, and also the right of access to information > pblica because ahestara the limit necessary to know what can > and must publish and what not, with quextensin, for how long, quines > they can do it, you can publish lbremente qudatos cules and require > free, express, written consent of the owner ... > > > In Uruguay the Law 18331 and its implementing regulations refer to the > protection of personal data (qualified in two types (sensitive or not) > As a human right protected by the constitution of the Republic. It > provides the owner of the personal data ARCO rights acronym that > level legislation includes right to access the database, > Corrigendum of Erroneous data or modified in reality, > Erroneous or correction of inaccurate data and Oposicina who does what > the law calls "treatment" of the data that is generally any use > of > these express your personal information without written consent > holder. > > > There is a Regulatory Unit Registration and Control of such data by the > Agency electronic government, in the Register of the Specifications > contain mandatory for all personal data that has a base, and > is of public or private persons, controls, and procedures performed > auditing and punishing violators with fines and even closure of the > database. > > > There is a base charge and take charge of the practice by > account of others or their own. The law regulates their responsibilities. > The owner of the database, or jurdica physical person is responding by > use or processing of personal data to the owner of that data. > > > An when they can use or deal in certain circumstances, > consent of the owner or in cases of data that supports your > treatment without l, personal data can not be used for other > purposes for which the owner permitted use. > > > The base is responsible for their own or decides its use: > Personal data is collected for a purpose and should be > eliminated once cumplila purpose for which it was collected, > can transmit only in certain conditions .. etc.. It is that > responsible for the base, which can be physical or legal person to whom > the > data subject can enforce penalties or > may correspond. > > > With variations, this is repeated in the legislation.In case of > international data transfer international law applies, and > habrque therefore analyze what is the applicable law and jurisdiction > competition. > > > > > In the case of ICANN, the owner of the database is * not * ICANN, for > Therefore, * is not * legally controller who is made of the > personal data. > > > According saw, in the system of the new agreement, the service is > outsourced, > To improve it in terms of the quality of the data and also about its > treatment, but that does not mean the change of ownership. > > > So ICANN agrees the "excencin" of data retention in > analyzing some specific cases and by a special procedure, > but hurting the service is intended to improve the users by > this new medium. > > > This is done at the request of the records to be released from their > liability because by not having to keep the data in accordance with > According to ICANN no longer have to answer to the law for their > conservation, damage, misuse, etc..It emphasizes the need for the > good faith by the owner or holder of the database (check in) > which contains the data, though this good faith is a matter of difficult > certain proof. > > > Also, to not keep such data prevents any possibility > fulfill the functions of ICANN in such cases, with respect to the > prevention of > damages that may result from misuse of domain names and > similar. > > > > > The issue in each case is to analyze these requests, if you really > retention of such data is necessary for the service prestacin > to Travs registry is provided or if it constitutes a violation of the > law. The blog that cases can be referred to and do not appear > so rare. And the position of registrars is clearly find that > facilitate their task. but in this case may be against the effectiveness > and > completeness of the service provided by ICANN. From what has already been > given and can > see on the web, it seems that security prevails.But the ms allde > presentation requirements of having the case (with reports of attorney, > etc. > ) Should be studied very well in that case is given rather than presumed > good faith as a way to resolve these cases. > > > Otherwise give an endorsement by the owners of the Records > released from liability, affect the risk of compliance > other obligations, affect all other obligations of the > Register and its owner as dueoo who treats data. > > > As decan seems a matter of interest. > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3/22/2014 20:59 GMT-03: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> : > > > > > > Fátima, solo serán las 04:00 AM en Buenos Aires... Pero prometo > participar. > > > > Gracias!! > > > > > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > De: Fatima Cambronero [mailto:fatimacambronero@gmail.com] > > Enviado el: sábado, 22 de marzo de 2014 08:54 p.m. > > Para: Alberto Soto > > CC: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch; LACRALO Español > > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RV: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- > ICANN > > Seeks Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data > Elements > > and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention > > > > > > > > Alejandro, Alberto, > > > > > > > > Comparto la opinión de que estamos frente a un tema interesante que > > deberíamos poder analizar y pronunciarnos desde nuestra región. > > > > > > > > El día lunes 24 a las 15 hs. local de Singapur está prevista una Mesa > > Redonda sobre Servicios de Directorio de Registro: presente y futuro. Si > > bien este tema concretamente no está incluido en la agenda de la reunión, > > es > > un tema muy relacionado que quizás aparezca en los debates. > > > > > > > > Sería bueno participar en esta Mesa Redonda para escuchar y discutir los > > comentarios que pueda haber al respecto. Entiendo que en el horario de > > nuestros países queda en una franja un poco complicada. Yo voy a estar > > atendiendo a dicha reunión. Si hay algún comentario o consulta que > quieran > > hacer llegar, me ofrezco para transmitirlos. > > > > > > > > Este es el enlace a la agenda de esta Mesa Redonda: > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Roundtable+on+Registrat > > ion+Directory+Services%3A+Now+and+the+Future+-+2014.03.24+-+Singapore > > > > > > > > Aquí el enlace al Adobe Connect: > https://icann.adobeconnect.com/sin49-vip/ > > (este es el mismo para todas las reuniones de At-Large de la semana). > > > > > > > > Saludos cordiales, > > > > Fatima Cambronero > > > > > > > > 2014-03-21 23:40 GMT-03:00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >: > > > > Creo que el interés debe ser suficiente. Es justamente uno de los temas > > que > > hacen a la existencia de entidades orientadas al usuario final de > Internet, > > es decir, NOSOTROS. > > Con seguridad hay distintas legislaciones para cada país, al menos en > > algunos ítems sustanciales. Aunque hay países que aún no tienen > > legislación. > > Hay 30 días para comentarios, es poco tiempo para la importancia del > tema. > > Sugiero que muy rápidamente las respectivas ALSs de cada país de nuestra > > Región, lea los antecedentes de esta referencia, y luego informen la > > legislación vigente en su respectivo país, con comentarios. También > sugiero > > que para esta primera fase, la fecha límite sea el próximo viernes > > 28/03/2014. > > También sugiero que quienes están participando en Singapur, sean eximidos > > de > > participar, tienen cosas muy importante que hacer por nosotros. > > > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > > De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] En nombre de > Dr. > > Alejandro Pisanty Baruch > > Enviado el: viernes, 21 de marzo de 2014 11:25 p.m. > > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] RV: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- ICANN > > Seeks > > > > Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and > > Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention > > > > Colegas, > > > > el llamado anexo puede tener implicaciones legales apreciables en nuestra > > región. Convoquemos a los expertos en protección de datos personales y > > otros > > temas relacionados con la retención de datos (cómputo forense, leyes de > > telecomunicaciones, Marco Civil en el caso particular de Brasil) para > > conformar una opinión sólida, si hay el interés suficiente. > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > > Facultad de Química UNAM > > Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > > > > > +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > > > > +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 > > Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > ________________________________________ > > Desde: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > [alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] en nombre de > > ICANN > > At-Large > > Staff [staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> ] > Enviado > > el: viernes, 21 de marzo de 2014 > > 20:00 > > Hasta: ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Asunto: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Public Comment on > > 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and Legitimate > Purposes > > for Collection and Retention > > > > [http://www.icann.org/images/gradlogo_bow.jpg]<http://www.icann.org/> > > News Alert > > > > http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-3-21mar14-en.htm > > > > ________________________________ > > ICANN Seeks Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data > > Elements and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention > > > > 21 March 2014 > > > > ICANN has been in discussions with a number of Registrars regarding data > > retention waiver requests ("Waiver Requests") submitted under the 2013 > > Registrar Accreditation Agreement (the "2013 RAA"). Some Registrars are > > seeking an exemption from certain collection and/or retention > requirements > > under the Data Retention Specification (the "Specification") of the 2013 > > RAA. Section 2 of the Data Retention Specification sets forth > requirements > > regarding the written materials a Registrar must submit in support of its > > good faith determination that the collection and/or retention of any data > > element specified in the Specification violates applicable law, and > > provides > > that following notice to ICANN of the Waiver Request, ICANN and the > > applicable Registrar shall discuss the matter in good faith in an effort > to > > reach a mutually acceptable resolution of the matter. An update on the > 2013 > > RAA and the data retention waiver process can be found here: > > > > > http://blog.icann.org/2014/02/update-on-2013-raa-and-data-retention-waiver-p > > < > > > http://blog.icann.org/2014/02/update-on-2013-raa-and-data-retention-waiver- > > process/> > > rocess/ > > > > ICANN understands that personal data should be treated in accordance with > > applicable data protection laws, which generally permit gathering and > > retention of personal data for legitimate purpose(s). ICANN also > > understands > > that the law may vary from country to country as to (i) what is > considered > > a > > legitimate purpose, (ii) whether the personal data is adequate, relevant > > and > > not excessive in relation to the legitimate purpose for which they are > > collected and (iii) for how long certain data elements may be retained. > In > > other words, what is considered a legitimate purpose for collection of > > certain data in one country may not be considered a legitimate purpose in > > another country. > > > > During ICANN's discussions in an effort to reach a mutually acceptable > > resolution of the matter, some Registrars have requested that ICANN (a) > > clarify and better define certain data elements described in the Data > > Retention Specification that the Registrars maintain are not clearly > > defined; and (b) describe potentially legitimate purposes for collection > > and > > retention of each data element that would help provide guidance for > > Registrars both as to whether such elements may be lawfully collected, > and, > > if so, for how long such elements might lawfully be retained. > > > > In response to these requests from some Registrars, ICANN is posting for > > public comment a document seeking to clarify what is meant by certain > data > > elements described in the Data Retention Specification and describing > > potentially legitimate purposes for collection and retention of those > data > > elements. That document can be found > > here< > > http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/draft-data-retention-s > > < > > > http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/draft-data-retention-spec- > > elements-21mar14-en.pdf> > > pec-elements-21mar14-en.pdf> [PDF, 116 KB]. The document will be posted > for > > a period of thirty (30) days to seek feedback and input from the > community > > on (i) whether the data elements are appropriately described, (ii) > whether > > the cited purposes for collection and retention are appropriate and > > legitimate, and (iii) whether there are other potentially legitimate > > purposes for collection and retention of such data elements. After the > > thirty (30) day period following this posting has expired, ICANN will > > consider all feedback and input received in connection with ICANN's > ongoing > > discussions to reach a mutually acceptable resolution of Waiver Requests. > > In > > the interim, ICANN will continue its ongoing discussions to reach a > > mutually > > acceptable resolution of Waiver Requests with individual Registrars with > > the > > goal of granting additional Waiver Requests as and when appropriate. > > > > A public comment period will remain open until 23:59 p.m. PDT/California, > > 21 > > April 2014. Public comments will be available for consideration by ICANN > > staff and the ICANN Board. > > > > * Comments can be posted to: > > comments-retention-21mar14(a)icann.org > > <mailto:comments-retention-21mar14@icann.org> > > <mailto:comments-retention-21mar14@icann > > <mailto:comments-retention-21mar14@icann> > > .org> > > * Comments can be viewed at: > > http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-retention-21mar14/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ALAC-Announce mailing list > > ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce > > > > At-Large Official Site: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fatima Cambronero > > Abogada-Argentina > > > > Phone: +54 9351 5282 668 > > Twitter: @facambronero > > Skype: fatima.cambronero > > > > Join the LACRALO/ICANN discussions: > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > Join the Diplo Internet Governance Community discussions: > > http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/ > > > > Join to the Internet Society (ISOC): http://www.internetsociety.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > Aida Noblia > _______________________________________________ > > > > [[--Original text (es) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/e752f06712.html > --]] > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > >

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Re: RV: ICANN Alerta de Noticias - ICANN busca la opini�n p�blica en 2013 RAA Retenci�n de datos Especificaci�n Elementos de datos y prop�sitos leg�timos para recogida y conservaci�n
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com March 26, 2014

March 26, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: RV: ICANN Alerta de Noticias - ICANN busca la opinión pública en 2013 RAA Retención de datos Especificación Elementos de datos y propósitos legítimos para recogida y conservación De: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Excelente exposición del tema, Aida. Registradores en jurisdicciones de la UE + aquellos con regímenes de protección de datos similares y acuerdos recíprocos con Protección de datos de la UE, como Uruguay son los más afectados. El GTE sobre la próxima generación de Registro de Datos Servicios de haber abordado este emitir en nuestras deliberaciones y daría la bienvenida a su visión y aportes. Yo confía en usted es también un miembro y después de las de At-Large cuestiones de registro WG. Saludos cordiales, -Carlton ============================== Carlton Un Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y Turnaround * ============================= El miércoles, 26 de marzo 2014 a las 2:55 pm, <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com> escribió: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re: RV: ICANN News Alert - ICANN Seeks Public Comment on 2013 > RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and Legitimate Purposes for > Collection and Retention > From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com > > Fatima, Alberto, Alejandro and all > > > Ses understand that a very important issue, and also in the complex > laws, I could not attend the roundtable mencionFtima is > You can listen any recording? is still some time for > comments? I am not clear what is the closing date for comments. > > > National legislation on protection of personal data are > rather strict, and also the right of access to information > pblica because ahestara the limit necessary to know what can > and must publish and what not, with quextensin, for how long, quines > they can do it, you can publish lbremente qudatos cules and require > free, express, written consent of the owner ... > > > In Uruguay the Law 18331 and its implementing regulations refer to the > protection of personal data (qualified in two types (sensitive or not) > As a human right protected by the constitution of the Republic. It > provides the owner of the personal data ARCO rights acronym that > level legislation includes right to access the database, > Corrigendum of Erroneous data or modified in reality, > Erroneous or correction of inaccurate data and Oposicina who does what > the law calls "treatment" of the data that is generally any use > of > these express your personal information without written consent > holder. > > > There is a Regulatory Unit Registration and Control of such data by the > Agency electronic government, in the Register of the Specifications > contain mandatory for all personal data that has a base, and > is of public or private persons, controls, and procedures performed > auditing and punishing violators with fines and even closure of the > database. > > > There is a base charge and take charge of the practice by > account of others or their own. The law regulates their responsibilities. > The owner of the database, or jurdica physical person is responding by > use or processing of personal data to the owner of that data. > > > An when they can use or deal in certain circumstances, > consent of the owner or in cases of data that supports your > treatment without l, personal data can not be used for other > purposes for which the owner permitted use. > > > The base is responsible for their own or decides its use: > Personal data is collected for a purpose and should be > eliminated once cumplila purpose for which it was collected, > can transmit only in certain conditions .. etc.. It is that > responsible for the base, which can be physical or legal person to whom > the > data subject can enforce penalties or > may correspond. > > > With variations, this is repeated in the legislation.In case of > international data transfer international law applies, and > habrque therefore analyze what is the applicable law and jurisdiction > competition. > > > > > In the case of ICANN, the owner of the database is * not * ICANN, for > Therefore, * is not * legally controller who is made of the > personal data. > > > According saw, in the system of the new agreement, the service is > outsourced, > To improve it in terms of the quality of the data and also about its > treatment, but that does not mean the change of ownership. > > > So ICANN agrees the "excencin" of data retention in > analyzing some specific cases and by a special procedure, > but hurting the service is intended to improve the users by > this new medium. > > > This is done at the request of the records to be released from their > liability because by not having to keep the data in accordance with > According to ICANN no longer have to answer to the law for their > conservation, damage, misuse, etc..It emphasizes the need for the > good faith by the owner or holder of the database (check in) > which contains the data, though this good faith is a matter of difficult > certain proof. > > > Also, to not keep such data prevents any possibility > fulfill the functions of ICANN in such cases, with respect to the > prevention of > damages that may result from misuse of domain names and > similar. > > > > > The issue in each case is to analyze these requests, if you really > retention of such data is necessary for the service prestacin > to Travs registry is provided or if it constitutes a violation of the > law. The blog that cases can be referred to and do not appear > so rare. And the position of registrars is clearly find that > facilitate their task. but in this case may be against the effectiveness > and > completeness of the service provided by ICANN. From what has already been > given and can > see on the web, it seems that security prevails.But the ms allde > presentation requirements of having the case (with reports of attorney, > etc. > ) Should be studied very well in that case is given rather than presumed > good faith as a way to resolve these cases. > > > Otherwise give an endorsement by the owners of the Records > released from liability, affect the risk of compliance > other obligations, affect all other obligations of the > Register and its owner as dueoo who treats data. > > > As decan seems a matter of interest. > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3/22/2014 20:59 GMT-03: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> : > > > > > > Fátima, solo serán las 04:00 AM en Buenos Aires... Pero prometo > participar. > > > > Gracias!! > > > > > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > De: Fatima Cambronero [mailto:fatimacambronero@gmail.com] > > Enviado el: sábado, 22 de marzo de 2014 08:54 p.m. > > Para: Alberto Soto > > CC: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch; LACRALO Español > > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RV: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- > ICANN > > Seeks Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data > Elements > > and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention > > > > > > > > Alejandro, Alberto, > > > > > > > > Comparto la opinión de que estamos frente a un tema interesante que > > deberíamos poder analizar y pronunciarnos desde nuestra región. > > > > > > > > El día lunes 24 a las 15 hs. local de Singapur está prevista una Mesa > > Redonda sobre Servicios de Directorio de Registro: presente y futuro. Si > > bien este tema concretamente no está incluido en la agenda de la reunión, > > es > > un tema muy relacionado que quizás aparezca en los debates. > > > > > > > > Sería bueno participar en esta Mesa Redonda para escuchar y discutir los > > comentarios que pueda haber al respecto. Entiendo que en el horario de > > nuestros países queda en una franja un poco complicada. Yo voy a estar > > atendiendo a dicha reunión. Si hay algún comentario o consulta que > quieran > > hacer llegar, me ofrezco para transmitirlos. > > > > > > > > Este es el enlace a la agenda de esta Mesa Redonda: > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Roundtable+on+Registrat > > ion+Directory+Services%3A+Now+and+the+Future+-+2014.03.24+-+Singapore > > > > > > > > Aquí el enlace al Adobe Connect: > https://icann.adobeconnect.com/sin49-vip/ > > (este es el mismo para todas las reuniones de At-Large de la semana). > > > > > > > > Saludos cordiales, > > > > Fatima Cambronero > > > > > > > > 2014-03-21 23:40 GMT-03:00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >: > > > > Creo que el interés debe ser suficiente. Es justamente uno de los temas > > que > > hacen a la existencia de entidades orientadas al usuario final de > Internet, > > es decir, NOSOTROS. > > Con seguridad hay distintas legislaciones para cada país, al menos en > > algunos ítems sustanciales. Aunque hay países que aún no tienen > > legislación. > > Hay 30 días para comentarios, es poco tiempo para la importancia del > tema. > > Sugiero que muy rápidamente las respectivas ALSs de cada país de nuestra > > Región, lea los antecedentes de esta referencia, y luego informen la > > legislación vigente en su respectivo país, con comentarios. También > sugiero > > que para esta primera fase, la fecha límite sea el próximo viernes > > 28/03/2014. > > También sugiero que quienes están participando en Singapur, sean eximidos > > de > > participar, tienen cosas muy importante que hacer por nosotros. > > > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > > De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] En nombre de > Dr. > > Alejandro Pisanty Baruch > > Enviado el: viernes, 21 de marzo de 2014 11:25 p.m. > > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] RV: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- ICANN > > Seeks > > > > Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and > > Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention > > > > Colegas, > > > > el llamado anexo puede tener implicaciones legales apreciables en nuestra > > región. Convoquemos a los expertos en protección de datos personales y > > otros > > temas relacionados con la retención de datos (cómputo forense, leyes de > > telecomunicaciones, Marco Civil en el caso particular de Brasil) para > > conformar una opinión sólida, si hay el interés suficiente. > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > > Facultad de Química UNAM > > Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > > > > > +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > > > > +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 > > Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > ________________________________________ > > Desde: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > [alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] en nombre de > > ICANN > > At-Large > > Staff [staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> ] > Enviado > > el: viernes, 21 de marzo de 2014 > > 20:00 > > Hasta: ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Asunto: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Public Comment on > > 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and Legitimate > Purposes > > for Collection and Retention > > > > [http://www.icann.org/images/gradlogo_bow.jpg]<http://www.icann.org/> > > News Alert > > > > http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-3-21mar14-en.htm > > > > ________________________________ > > ICANN Seeks Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data > > Elements and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention > > > > 21 March 2014 > > > > ICANN has been in discussions with a number of Registrars regarding data > > retention waiver requests ("Waiver Requests") submitted under the 2013 > > Registrar Accreditation Agreement (the "2013 RAA"). Some Registrars are > > seeking an exemption from certain collection and/or retention > requirements > > under the Data Retention Specification (the "Specification") of the 2013 > > RAA. Section 2 of the Data Retention Specification sets forth > requirements > > regarding the written materials a Registrar must submit in support of its > > good faith determination that the collection and/or retention of any data > > element specified in the Specification violates applicable law, and > > provides > > that following notice to ICANN of the Waiver Request, ICANN and the > > applicable Registrar shall discuss the matter in good faith in an effort > to > > reach a mutually acceptable resolution of the matter. An update on the > 2013 > > RAA and the data retention waiver process can be found here: > > > > > http://blog.icann.org/2014/02/update-on-2013-raa-and-data-retention-waiver-p > > < > > > http://blog.icann.org/2014/02/update-on-2013-raa-and-data-retention-waiver- > > process/> > > rocess/ > > > > ICANN understands that personal data should be treated in accordance with > > applicable data protection laws, which generally permit gathering and > > retention of personal data for legitimate purpose(s). ICANN also > > understands > > that the law may vary from country to country as to (i) what is > considered > > a > > legitimate purpose, (ii) whether the personal data is adequate, relevant > > and > > not excessive in relation to the legitimate purpose for which they are > > collected and (iii) for how long certain data elements may be retained. > In > > other words, what is considered a legitimate purpose for collection of > > certain data in one country may not be considered a legitimate purpose in > > another country. > > > > During ICANN's discussions in an effort to reach a mutually acceptable > > resolution of the matter, some Registrars have requested that ICANN (a) > > clarify and better define certain data elements described in the Data > > Retention Specification that the Registrars maintain are not clearly > > defined; and (b) describe potentially legitimate purposes for collection > > and > > retention of each data element that would help provide guidance for > > Registrars both as to whether such elements may be lawfully collected, > and, > > if so, for how long such elements might lawfully be retained. > > > > In response to these requests from some Registrars, ICANN is posting for > > public comment a document seeking to clarify what is meant by certain > data > > elements described in the Data Retention Specification and describing > > potentially legitimate purposes for collection and retention of those > data > > elements. That document can be found > > here< > > http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/draft-data-retention-s > > < > > > http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/draft-data-retention-spec- > > elements-21mar14-en.pdf> > > pec-elements-21mar14-en.pdf> [PDF, 116 KB]. The document will be posted > for > > a period of thirty (30) days to seek feedback and input from the > community > > on (i) whether the data elements are appropriately described, (ii) > whether > > the cited purposes for collection and retention are appropriate and > > legitimate, and (iii) whether there are other potentially legitimate > > purposes for collection and retention of such data elements. After the > > thirty (30) day period following this posting has expired, ICANN will > > consider all feedback and input received in connection with ICANN's > ongoing > > discussions to reach a mutually acceptable resolution of Waiver Requests. > > In > > the interim, ICANN will continue its ongoing discussions to reach a > > mutually > > acceptable resolution of Waiver Requests with individual Registrars with > > the > > goal of granting additional Waiver Requests as and when appropriate. > > > > A public comment period will remain open until 23:59 p.m. PDT/California, > > 21 > > April 2014. Public comments will be available for consideration by ICANN > > staff and the ICANN Board. > > > > * Comments can be posted to: > > comments-retention-21mar14(a)icann.org > > <mailto:comments-retention-21mar14@icann.org> > > <mailto:comments-retention-21mar14@icann > > <mailto:comments-retention-21mar14@icann> > > .org> > > * Comments can be viewed at: > > http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-retention-21mar14/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ALAC-Announce mailing list > > ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce > > > > At-Large Official Site: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fatima Cambronero > > Abogada-Argentina > > > > Phone: +54 9351 5282 668 > > Twitter: @facambronero > > Skype: fatima.cambronero > > > > Join the LACRALO/ICANN discussions: > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > Join the Diplo Internet Governance Community discussions: > > http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/ > > > > Join to the Internet Society (ISOC): http://www.internetsociety.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > Aida Noblia > _______________________________________________ > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/a335052c41.html --]]

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Fwd: NETmundial: En el camino a Brasil
by natalia.enciso＠gmail.com March 26, 2014

March 26, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Fwd: NETmundial: En el camino a Brasil De: natalia.enciso(a)gmail.com Enviado desde mi iPhone Inicio del Mensaje reenviado: > De: Stephanie Borg Psaila <stephaniep(a)diplomacy.edu> > Fecha: 26 de marzo de 2014 12:01:22 GMT-4 > Para: igcbp(a)diplomacy.edu > Asunto: [Webinar] NETmundial: On the path to Brazil > Responder a: stephaniep(a)diplomacy.edu > > Friends, > > I'd like to extend an invitation to join us on Friday 28th at 14h UTC/GMT for our March webinar on the NETmundial meeting. > > Raúl Echeberría, executive director of LACNIC and co-chair of NETmundial’s Executive Multistakeholder Committee, and Rodrigo de la Parra, ICANN vice-president, Stakeholder Engagement, Latin America and the Caribbean, will update us with developments in Latin America in the preparation for NETmundial. > > Please read the announcement below. To attend, register at http://www.diplomacy.edu/registrations/webinar-netmundial-path-brazil > > Hope to see many of you on Friday, > Stephanie > > > Is this email not displaying correctly? View this email in your browser > > March Internet governance webinar > NETmundial: On the path to Brazil > > Dear friends, > > We would like to invite you to our next IG webinar on Friday 28th March at 14h UTC/GMT, on the Global Multistakeholder Meeting on the Future of Internet Governance (NETmundial), which is taking place in Brazil in April. > > Raúl Echeberría, executive director of LACNIC and co-chair of NETmundial’s Executive Multistakeholder Committee, and Rodrigo de la Parra, ICANN vice-president, Stakeholder Engagement, Latin America and the Caribbean, will update us with developments in Latin America in the preparation for NETmundial. > > The webinar will address the following, among other aspects: > What can we expect from NETmundial in terms of a tangible outcome? > With various IG bodies engaged in the process, how can the IG community participate in the run-up to the meeting and during the meeting itself? > Based on the contributions received, what are the top three items on NETmundial’s agenda? > What type of ‘Latin American’ flavour can we expect at NETmundial (issues, priorities and actors)? > To participate, please fill in the registration form. Attendance is free; registration is required. The link to join the webinar will be e-mailed on the day, shortly before the start of the webinar. Participants will be able to discuss the topic with the presenters and other participants present for the webinar. > > Looking forward to e-seeing you! > Diplo's IG webinars team > Like us on FaceBook > Follow us on Twitter > Our website > Our network > > Copyright © 2014 DiploFoundation, All rights reserved. > You are receiving this email because you expressed an interest in DiploFoundation's webinars. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to igcbp+unsubscribe(a)diplomacy.edu. lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/75807c8298.html --]]

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